External Hard Drive! Question

TechZone

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Dec 27, 2004
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Hi, I have a ibook G4 1.2ghz. I don't have that much space in my hard drive. I want to buy an external hard drive.

Questions -

1. Firewire External Hard drives are expensive. Is there any big difference between USB & Firewire?
2. I want to buy a 160gb hard drive & a Hard drive enclosure. Should I go for it or it will be better to buy a External hard drive?
3. Can I install App in the External Hard drive to save space?
4. Can I reformat that hard drive in windows and use it with my Mac? I want to use this hard drive winth Windows & Mac.
5. Which External hard Drive do you like? ( Under $150 )

Please help me. Thanks in Advance. :)
 

jelloshotsrule

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Feb 7, 2002
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TechZone said:
Hi, I have a ibook G4 1.2ghz. I don't have that much space in my hard drive. I want to buy an external hard drive.

Questions -

1. Firewire External Hard drives are expensive. Is there any big difference between USB & Firewire?
2. I want to buy a 160gb hard drive & a Hard drive enclosure. Should I go for it or it will be better to buy a External hard drive?
3. Can I install App in the External Hard drive to save space?
4. Can I reformat that hard drive in windows and use it with my Mac? I want to use this hard drive winth Windows & Mac.
5. Which External hard Drive do you like? ( Under $150 )

Please help me. Thanks in Advance. :)
1. firewire 400 is much faster than usb 1... but usb 2 is around the same speed as firewire 400... firewire 800 is the fastest, but still pretty expensive.
2. if you search thoroughly, i'm sure you can save money getting them separately, however it all depends on how much effort/time you put into it and what rebates you find, etc.
3. yes (for most apps), but for some it may not be a good idea. it could also affect speed when running the app.
4. i think you can, but i'll let someone else handle this
5. it depends how much you care about performance... if you want to spend 150 or less total, then you probably can't get the best out there... in any case, check out www.macsales.com... i've had good experience with them. also newegg.com is good

good luck and hope that helped a bit
 

CanadaRAM

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1. Firewire 400 is fast. USB 2.0 is slower, USB 1.1 is Pig-Dog slow.

2. Errr... a Firewire hard drive is external. Do you mean should you build your own from a bare HD mechanism and a case vs. buy a packaged firewire drive? Depends how good you are at shopping for good parts and at minor technical assembly. But if you want someone to guarantee the whole thing, buy the packaged drive

3. You can install applications on the external, yes. Some apps may object to not being in the conventional place.

4. You can format a drive with FAT32 and use it on both machines, but I believe that makes it non-bootable on the Mac. One reason to have an external drive is so you can boot from it if you have internal drive problems. Perhaps you can partition it with one HFS+ and one FAT32 partition? Comments from someone who has done this?

5. Seagate, Maxtor and Western digital have Firewire externals, all are somewhat short on Mac features. I have had bad luck with external Maxtors reliability. I like LaCie D2 drives, don't know about how they'll fit with your budget.

For bare cases, MacAlly has a combo Firewire400/USB2 aluminum case with an AC adaptor, they have recently dropped the price on it. I have been trying it with a Seagate 160 GB Barracuda 7200.7 and it works well.

Thanks
Trevor
CanadaRAM.com
 

Platform

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Dec 30, 2004
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With FireWire you can boot from the extrnal disk with USB you can't I think that is an advantake + it is faster :rolleyes:
 

PlaceofDis

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if you are going to want to use apps, i would definitely go for the firewire, simply because firewire can sustain the 400mbts whereas usb 2.0 only gets up to 480 in bursts, so you would see better performance for sure, usb 1.0 is too slow for any extended use, flash drives are about all its good for

personally i just got a Maxtor 160gig firewire/usb 2.0 combo external drive not too long ago, and im actually using it as my boot/main drive, no problems, solid drive, but it runs $200, so its a bit more, but shows that firewire is better for longer usage if you ask me
 

shortchannel

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Feb 2, 2005
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Is an external firewire drive faster than an internal ATA or SATA drive? I've seen a few people mention using them as their bootable drive, which seems odd to me. A related question, if it truly is faster, why bother with ATA/SATA drives at all? Why not design a machine with literally one kind of port that EVERYTHING plugs into?
 

Poeben

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Jul 29, 2004
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shortchannel said:
Is an external firewire drive faster than an internal ATA or SATA drive? I've seen a few people mention using them as their bootable drive, which seems odd to me. A related question, if it truly is faster, why bother with ATA/SATA drives at all? Why not design a machine with literally one kind of port that EVERYTHING plugs into?
It depends on a lot of things. A 7200 rpm firewire drive will be faster than a slower notebook drive. It will not however be faster than an ata/sata drive, with some exceptions. For example, my lacie big disk extreme 400 gb just barely outperforms the stock 250gb sata on my G5 (in benchmarks that is.) Keep in mind this is a FW800 drive with built-in raid 0. Also consider that firewire has limited bandwidth. Even though you can plug in up to 63 devices, I would cringe at the thought of even 3 or 4 drives competing for bandwidth.
 

Mechcozmo

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Jul 17, 2004
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jelloshotsrule said:
1. firewire 400 is much faster than usb 1... but usb 2 is around the same speed as firewire 400... firewire 800 is the fastest, but still pretty expensive.
The iBook doesn't have FW 800
And USB 1.0 is not found really... we find 1.1 on Macs (2.0 now)

1.0 was ~5 Mbps, 1.1 was 11 Mbps, and 2.0 is ~480 Mbps
 

polyisoprene

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Feb 5, 2005
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TechZone said:
1. Firewire External Hard drives are expensive. Is there any big difference between USB & Firewire?
I have a FireWire400/USB2.0 Combo HDD casing. And from what I've tested, I can connect the HDD with FireWire alone. But with the USB2.0 connection, there doesn't seem to have enough juice to power up the HDD, hence the original USB cable that came with the package has two heads, which is plugged into both the USB sockets on my iBook to draw enough juice to spin the HDD... which is wasteful.

Alternatively, I can also use a power cable, which is hooked into the mains outlet. But this defeats the purpose of mobile computing.
 
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