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I have G-Raid with Thunderbolt 8TB version for over few months, so far so good, working as expected. The only downside is to manually turn it on/off.
 
[[ You really believe that most people never need to revert to an old version of a document, or never delete a file by mistake? ]]

Why yes, I do.
What makes you believe otherwise?

If one "deletes a file by mistake", that's what the backup is for. Connect the backup, copy the file back over. I've done that plenty of times. I don't want an "older version" of the accidentally-deleted file; I want one that as close as possible is a "dupe" of the file I just deleted.
 
[[ You really believe that most people never need to revert to an old version of a document, or never delete a file by mistake? ]]

Why yes, I do.
What makes you believe otherwise?

If one "deletes a file by mistake", that's what the backup is for. Connect the backup, copy the file back over. I've done that plenty of times. I don't want an "older version" of the accidentally-deleted file; I want one that as close as possible is a "dupe" of the file I just deleted.

But if you were running RAID 1, then you would not be able to do this. That's how this whole discussion started. :confused:

An offline clone is indeed one form of backup, I still prefer having another back up option that allows me to retrieve previous versions/states of files when necessary.
 
I have G-Raid with Thunderbolt 8TB version for over few months, so far so good, working as expected. The only downside is to manually turn it on/off.

Does the G drive get reckonized by your mac when you turn it on or when it awakes from sleep?
 
My owc mercury eliete pops http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/hard-drives/external/elite-al-pro-quad on the second my mac turns on and awakes. Sleeps when the mac sleeps and awakes when it awakes. Tits there. It makes a slight Swwwhhhh sound when on. So I can hear the drive a bit. But that's what you get with a 7200 rpm and metal body. Even with my mac on if I have not used the drive in about ten minutes it powers down (sleeps) but does not disconnect (un mount). So all in all I am quite happy with it. Fast too! 300mbs read/write. My Old WD 5400 rpm USB 2 on my xp would take 20 minutes to transfer my doc folder. The owc on my mac takes 20 seconds to transfer the same folder.

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Yes, both of mine do. I would not be so swayed by Amazon reviews.

I'm typically not I take the good with the bad. But there are a lot saying unmounting issues and etc on there. But that also has something to do with mavericks I believe so it's not all them.
 
But if you were running RAID 1, then you would not be able to do this. That's how this whole discussion started. :confused:

An offline clone is indeed one form of backup, I still prefer having another back up option that allows me to retrieve previous versions/states of files when necessary.

RAID 1 for what? I think I mentioned it before (as has someone else), using a RAID setup as your ONLY storage location for files isn't the best idea. Many people confuse the concept of having an external storage device and having an ACTUAL backup.

Now, if the RAID IS the backup to the data stored on the computer, then it WOULD be possible to recover a file that was deleted by accident.

I said it before, a TRUE backup solution includes off-site storage.
 
RAID 1 for what? I think I mentioned it before (as has someone else), using a RAID setup as your ONLY storage location for files isn't the best idea. Many people confuse the concept of having an external storage device and having an ACTUAL backup.

Now, if the RAID IS the backup to the data stored on the computer, then it WOULD be possible to recover a file that was deleted by accident.

I said it before, a TRUE backup solution includes off-site storage.

I have no idea why you are quoting me or arguing with me, since you are repeating what I have already said on the 1st page and I agree with you.
 
I have no idea why you are quoting me or arguing with me, since you are repeating what I have already said on the 1st page and I agree with you.

I quoted because I was asking what you were saying the RAID 1 was on. That was really the only part intended for you.
 
I quoted because I was asking what you were saying the RAID 1 was on. That was really the only part intended for you.

Raid 1 as the "primary storage". Lots of people will buy a raid 5 or a raid 1 device and then keep the files on there as the one and only copy believing that thanks to raid they are now "backed up". As we have discussed, this is a fallacy.
 
Except that if another drive fails during the rebuild, then you lose everything. Any RAID is not a backup strategy. RAID gives you redundancy and protection against hard drive failure(except RAID 0). A backup solution gives you the ability to retrieve previous versions of a file. RAID will not do that.

Let's say for example you're running RAID 1 or RAID 10 and you feel that it is an adequate backup solution so your only copy of a file is on the RAID array. Then imagine that a file becomes corrupt or you make changes to it that were not intentional. Those changes/corruptions will immediately be copied to the other drive in the array. Thus you have no backup.

You are preaching to the converted. Note sure you read or understood my response.
I was simply saying that he was making too big an issue of how difficult it was to recover from a drive failure with raid. With regard to a second drive failure while the first is rebuilding. Do you carry two spare tyres in your car.
 
You are preaching to the converted. Note sure you read or understood my response.
I was simply saying that he was making too big an issue of how difficult it was to recover from a drive failure with raid. With regard to a second drive failure while the first is rebuilding. Do you carry two spare tyres in your car.

Have you ever had to rebuild a decent size raid 5 array? When one of your drives fails, this is when your other drives are most vulnerable. There is lots of literature out there about the risks of raid 5.

This one discusses raid 6, but links to a similar older article about raid 5. I don't think it is wise to to simply brush off how much of an issue rebuilding an array actually is

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/storage/why-raid-6-stops-working-in-2019/805
 
Have you ever had to rebuild a decent size raid 5 array? When one of your drives fails, this is when your other drives are most vulnerable. There is lots of literature out there about the risks of raid 5.

This one discusses raid 6, but links to a similar older article about raid 5. I don't think it is wise to to simply brush off how much of an issue rebuilding an array actually is

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/storage/why-raid-6-stops-working-in-2019/805

My friend I was rebuilding raid arrays on IBM as400 in 1995. albeit Fully Mirrored Raid 1.
 
Strange, I've had nothing but a good experience with G-Technology.
I have had 2 G-Tech drives, a G-Drive that I bought 2 years ago and has never failed me and a G-Raid bought last month and was DOA. I bought the G-Raid because of the good first experience but 50/50 is not good odds and I will never buy another of their products. A very small sample indeed but enough (along with all of the bad reviews of late) to keep me away.
 
I have had 2 G-Tech drives, a G-Drive that I bought 2 years ago and has never failed me and a G-Raid bought last month and was DOA. I bought the G-Raid because of the good first experience but 50/50 is not good odds and I will never buy another of their products. A very small sample indeed but enough (along with all of the bad reviews of late) to keep me away.

Hmm fair enough, was thinking about getting a G-RAID mini maybe not if yours was DOA
 
Does the G drive get reckonized by your mac when you turn it on or when it awakes from sleep?

G-Raid has to be turned on to be mounted, its power is not linked with computer's power.

I don't put my mac into sleep, I just turn it on or off.
 
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