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connoisseur

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Mar 7, 2008
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Long time WD external HD user i own 4 never had any issues
I bought a Hitatachi 500GB external yesterday for $99
connected the usb it reads 465Gb where did my other 35gb go..........?

DO IT TAKE 35GB TO FORMAT
 

TEG

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Jan 21, 2002
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Please do some research before posting these questions.

Your hard drive space is still there, it is just that the Marketing Machines and Computers calculate your size differently. To Marketing, 1KB = 10^3, 1MB = 10^6, 1GB = 10^9, whereas the computer says 1KiB = 2^10 (1024), 1MiB = 2^20, and 1GiB = 2^20. This is due to the computer using binary numbers and with the values being close it was decided to do this instead of wasting extra space to calculate the values. Your drive is 500 GB, but only 465GiB, it is the same value, only calculated differently.

TEG
 

trav1085

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Oct 8, 2006
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Long time WD external HD user i own 4 never had any issues
I bought a Hitatachi 500GB external yesterday for $99
connected the usb it reads 465Gb where did my other 35gb go..........?

DO IT TAKE 35GB TO FORMAT

Uhhh you mean 45GB, why didn't anybody else point this out, or did they think it was a clear typo?
 

Apple Ink

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As a rule of a thumb.... actual HDD capacity = Advertised Capacity - 7% to 10% of Advt Capacity!
 

viggen61

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While the decimal vs binary argument has some merit, there is also the "Unformatted" vs. "Formatted" capacity. The box gives the "unformatted capacity" (look for the asterisk and fine print). Get Info will show you the "formatted" capacity.

Just like CRT TV sets. The "screen size" is not the same as the "viewable area".

Look at the disk in Disk Utility. It should show you the raw capacity as something over 500 billion bytes, but then the formatted capacity will be less. Different formats can also take up slightly different amounts of space. But I wouldn't base the choice on that...

:apple::apple:
 

Michael CM1

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Feb 4, 2008
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Long time WD external HD user i own 4 never had any issues
I bought a Hitatachi 500GB external yesterday for $99
connected the usb it reads 465Gb where did my other 35gb go..........?

DO IT TAKE 35GB TO FORMAT

This "mislabeling" is as old as the itty bitty "pre-cooked weight" on hamburgers.

I think Mac OS will use numbers like 512MB and 1GB to display RAM (it doesn't go all specific like the BIOS of a PC does), but it doesn't mask hard drives. Why manufacturers are able to get away with such rounding is beyond me. They should have to put how much you actually have if you plug the sucker up. Yes, it might mess up the pretty "500GB" on the box, but I think we can get used to it. We buy 16.9 fluid ounces of water and numberous decimals of chips.
 

Chundles

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Jul 4, 2005
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This "mislabeling" is as old as the itty bitty "pre-cooked weight" on hamburgers.

I think Mac OS will use numbers like 512MB and 1GB to display RAM (it doesn't go all specific like the BIOS of a PC does), but it doesn't mask hard drives. Why manufacturers are able to get away with such rounding is beyond me. They should have to put how much you actually have if you plug the sucker up. Yes, it might mess up the pretty "500GB" on the box, but I think we can get used to it. We buy 16.9 fluid ounces of water and numberous decimals of chips.

It's not the manufacturers fault.

If I had gone through my degree calling 1024 joules a kilojoule I would have been laughed out of university.

It's the computer makers faults for allowing SI prefixes in situations where it's not appropriate.
 
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