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BrownManUPS

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Face ID is inferior to Touch ID, except when it works.

Touch ID worked for me 99.9% of the time. After touching that button probably hundreds of thousands of times, I only had a couple of rare failures due to my hands being slightly wet or similar. In general, Touch ID worked very well and was technically accurate given the context of use.

Face ID works about 90% of the time so far. I've used it less to unlock the phone, but there are more moments of failure because the input is so much more complex. Face ID requires the phone be within a consistent range from your face -- if you take the height of the X and measure that from your nose, that's the closest distance it can use to register your face. If it is any closer, it can't scan your whole face so it isn't sure. This is annoying if you are near sighted, holding it up when leaning over a bedside table, or similar. The furthest distance is quite far though -- roughly the distance from your lap if seated upright (maybe even more).

As many of you have seen, Face ID also only works in a certain orientation. If the X is not basically upright in portrait, and your face also isn't the same orientation, then the phone fails to unlock. As with above, you can't unlock it while laying down on the bed sideways... a regular use case for me.

Even with all conditions met, I still get one-two failures for inexplicable reasons. It might be because of hats, scarves or etc, but this is where Touch ID isn't as opaque as an interaction method -- you pretty much know what will interfere with Touch ID scans, and you also mostly have fingers exposed. Your Face holds more objects, like sunglasses or hats, making the scan failure more likely.

When Face ID works, it is fantastic, especially when you trust it will work and swipe up. The scan happens effortlessly and its implementation with password management is first-class. Given the amount of failures I've had, I find myself waiting for the unlock before proceeding to swipe, which makes it feel slow.

There's so much more to iPhone X besides Face ID (the screen alone is worth the upgrade, and the lack of home button as an interaction is way better), but as a tentpole feature of the device, Face ID has a lot of room for improvement in v2.

(note: I have attention detection OFF for all of the above).
 
The more I use FaceID the more it feels like a poor compromise. For all the reasons you stated, it just takes more effort to start using an iPhone X from the locked state.

It's not terrible, but it fails a lot more for me than Touch ID. I don't want to think about how I have to wake up and use my phone. I just want to use it. TouchID allowed that. FaceID, relative to TouchID, requires significantly more effort.
 
The more I use it the better it has been it used to not work when I laid down I had it sit up, now it does.

And I really don’t see turning the phone 90 degrees as effort but that’s just me.
 
The more I use it the better it has been it used to not work when I laid down I had it sit up, now it does.

And I really don’t see turning the phone 90 degrees as effort but that’s just me.

i'm not saying it takes a lot of effort. But relative to TouchID that was nearly zero effort, FaceID requires relatively more.

For now, i've turned off FaceID for unlocking my phone and am just using a passcode with a timeout of 15 minutes. I've left FaceID on for everything else though.
 
My Face ID has worked well above 95%. SO well I forget it is working and just swipe up. Touch ID was great but the latest and greatest from Apple does not have it.

I guess I just use it often in cases where FaceID is not expected to perform well: in bed, when i'm bundled up in a winter hat and jacket that covers my chin, laying on a desk.

I think the issue is here that FaceID is expected to not work well in situations like these, but these situations are not uncommon. TouchID has less situations where it is expected not to perform well.
 
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I guess I just use it often in cases where FaceID is not expected to perform well: in bed, when i'm bundled up in a winter hat and jacket that covers my chin, laying on a desk.

I think the issue is here that FaceID is expected to not work well in situations like these, but these situations are not uncommon. TouchID has less situations where it is expected not to perform well.

The only problem with TouchID is that Apple has now moved away from it. So we are left with FaceID or entering your passcode. Mine works fine, even when sitting on the desk. I understand that hats, coats and other thing might get in the way of FaceID but that would be rare for me in Florida. It is not perfect but so far I am liking.
 
I guess I just use it often in cases where FaceID is not expected to perform well: in bed, when i'm bundled up in a winter hat and jacket that covers my chin, laying on a desk.

I think the issue is here that FaceID is expected to not work well in situations like these, but these situations are not uncommon. TouchID has less situations where it is expected not to perform well.

Never wore gloves before?! Had sweaty hands from playing ball or whatever?!
 
It’s the opposite for me, FaceID works 99%, and TouchID only 80-90%. Especially in winter, my skin gets dried and it won’t recognize my prints.

I have a couple of banking apps with is password protected. FaceID works so well in unlocking the apps quickly and seamlessly, that I forgot they were password protected.
 
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The only problem with TouchID is that Apple has now moved away from it. So we are left with FaceID or entering your passcode. Mine works fine, even when sitting on the desk. I understand that hats, coats and other thing might get in the way of FaceID but that would be rare for me in Florida. It is not perfect but so far I am liking.

Makes perfect sense.

Never wore gloves before?! Had sweaty hands from playing ball or whatever?!

Agreed that wearing gloves means you have to take them off for TouchID. This hasn't changed for me with FaceID, because if i'm wearing gloves i'm usually wearing a winter hat and have my winter jacket up to and covering part of my chin. In both scenarios, i'm typing in a passcode.

With respect to running/exercising -- yes, FaceID works better here. Unless it's winter.

It’s the opposite for me, FaceID works 99%, and TouchID only 80-90%. Especially in winter, my skin gets dried and it won’t recognize my prints.

I have a couple of banking apps with is password protected. FaceID works so well in unlocking the apps quickly and seamlessly, that I forgot they were password protected.

Interesting, never had that issue with TouchID.
 
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My Face ID has worked well above 95%. SO well I forget it is working and just swipe up. Touch ID was great but the latest and greatest from Apple does not have it.
I have problem with Face ID ,when I’m outside on cold weather not working ,but after reset it’s work again ,it’s annoying because now is winter
 
This hasn't changed for me with FaceID, because if i'm wearing gloves i'm usually wearing a winter hat and have my winter jacket up to and covering part of my chin. In both scenarios, i'm typing in a passcode.

Interesting, I've done some testing involving partially obscuring my face and my FID has still operated perfectly (obviously there's a tolerance point where it doesn't work, but that's pretty much covering up everything except a 3-4" horizontal strip across my eyes.
 
So what?
Yes i know all us CIA agents just Cannot have our phones looked into by any costs..
But it’s still far more consistent than that relic fingerprint contraption.
And of course it’s not perfect. YET.
Nobody expected it to be.
 
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