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martint235

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So my contract is coming to an end soon. I currently own a 7+ and the options are: 8; 8+; X or Galaxy Note 8.

I've owned a Note before and liked it although it was huge. Trouble is I also have a Watch Series 3 which would have to go if I switched to the Note so that's under consideration at the mo.

I switched from a 7 to a 7+ cos I was having difficulty reading the screen. I then found that basically I need to wear my glasses every time I use a phone (glasses mean even the SE is usable) so I'm now considering going back down in size to the 8. Will the difference really bug me do you think?

And now the key question relating to the X: Face ID. I have no issues with unlocking a phone with Face ID but do all the apps that currently support Touch ID also support Face ID or will I have to start entering passwords a lot again.

Thanks
 

Black Tiger

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So my contract is coming to an end soon. I currently own a 7+ and the options are: 8; 8+; X or Galaxy Note 8.

I've owned a Note before and liked it although it was huge. Trouble is I also have a Watch Series 3 which would have to go if I switched to the Note so that's under consideration at the mo.

I switched from a 7 to a 7+ cos I was having difficulty reading the screen. I then found that basically I need to wear my glasses every time I use a phone (glasses mean even the SE is usable) so I'm now considering going back down in size to the 8. Will the difference really bug me do you think?

And now the key question relating to the X: Face ID. I have no issues with unlocking a phone with Face ID but do all the apps that currently support Touch ID also support Face ID or will I have to start entering passwords a lot again.

Thanks
If the app supports Touch ID, it automatically works with Face ID too. Thankfully.
 

tarsins

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So my contract is coming to an end soon. I currently own a 7+ and the options are: 8; 8+; X or Galaxy Note 8.

I've owned a Note before and liked it although it was huge. Trouble is I also have a Watch Series 3 which would have to go if I switched to the Note so that's under consideration at the mo.

I switched from a 7 to a 7+ cos I was having difficulty reading the screen. I then found that basically I need to wear my glasses every time I use a phone (glasses mean even the SE is usable) so I'm now considering going back down in size to the 8. Will the difference really bug me do you think?

And now the key question relating to the X: Face ID. I have no issues with unlocking a phone with Face ID but do all the apps that currently support Touch ID also support Face ID or will I have to start entering passwords a lot again.

Thanks

I upgraded from the 7+. I found the ratio of screen to body size to be excellent on the X and in use the screen seems larger (it is, vertically). It's much more pocketable and feels comfortable in the hand. I did try an 8 before deciding but that seemed so tiny, even with glasses. Face ID is superb and very transparent in use. All my apps simply worked straight off the bat (some had updates for Face ID but they'd worked anyway, not sure what that was all about). IMHO an X would suit you and you might as well go for the new tech.
 

The Game 161

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The question is what would you like Android or IOS? thats what it comes down to. If you enjoy your apple watch you will find it tough leaving. Apple watch is a big deal breaker for me. Love the apple watch and what it does.
 
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martint235

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I upgraded from the 7+. I found the ratio of screen to body size to be excellent on the X and in use the screen seems larger (it is, vertically). It's much more pocketable and feels comfortable in the hand. I did try an 8 before deciding but that seemed so tiny, even with glasses. Face ID is superb and very transparent in use. All my apps simply worked straight off the bat (some had updates for Face ID but they'd worked anyway, not sure what that was all about). IMHO an X would suit you and you might as well go for the new tech.

Thanks. That post has swung it a lot in favour of the X
 

martint235

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The question is what would you like Android or IOS? thats what it comes down to. If you enjoy your apple watch you will find it tough leaving. Apple watch is a big deal breaker for me. Love the apple watch and what it does.

I like it but I’ve also sold it twice. And then bought another one. Not sure around android wearables
 

newellj

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Apple has used FaceID to make a lot of apps and websites easier to use than with TouchID. In many cases, the phone will fill in user names and passwords using FaceID to authenticate, where you either had to use the UID/PW fill buttons or enter the UID/PW manually. In theory I think Apple could have done the same with TouchID, so presumably this reflects Apple's confidence in the greater security of FaceID.

I found FaceID very reliable, but other people have different experiences. I ultimately returned the phone after five weeks (holiday return period) mostly because although some of the gestures were brilliant and transparent, others (to me) were extremely awkward and forced me to change how I used the phone in ways I didn't like. YMMV. I want to tell you that even though I returned it, I think it's a really great phone that works extremely well - definitely not a "beta" first effort as some here like to chant.

Although I think that the X is absolutely brilliant from a hardware point of view, you should be aware that some people (including me) find that the use of pulse wave modulation (PWM) to dim the screen creates a flickering effect that can give you eye strain or headaches. If you buy an X, I would try to make sure that this won't cause you problems and return the phone within the two week return window if it does.
 

bruinsrme

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I upgraded from the 7+. I found the ratio of screen to body size to be excellent on the X and in use the screen seems larger (it is, vertically). It's much more pocketable and feels comfortable in the hand. I did try an 8 before deciding but that seemed so tiny, even with glasses. Face ID is superb and very transparent in use. All my apps simply worked straight off the bat (some had updates for Face ID but they'd worked anyway, not sure what that was all about). IMHO an X would suit you and you might as well go for the new tech.

I think you stole my thoughts.

The X for me has been an excellent experience.
As mentioned about the form factor works for me.

Coming from the plus, which I loved, it was just becoming tiresome lugging it around. Meaning, it wasn’t conveniently pocketable, with a case it became bulky and the overall size just became an issue. Maybe the Apple leather case like I have on the X would have made a difference.

The non plus models screens and cameras weren’t to my liking.

Face recognition has been a great feature.
No button is a great feature.

Phone, like underwear area personal choice. Both can be good and both can become crappy. All in how you use it.
 

Sital

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That is not my experience. Apps have to be modified to work with face-ID. A lot of apps support face-ID, but others don’t even if they work with touch-ID.

Agreed. My banking app, which used TouchID, didn't work with FaceID until an update.
 

Black Tiger

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That is not my experience. Apps have to be modified to work with face-ID. A lot of apps support face-ID, but others don’t even if they work with touch-ID.
Interesting, but I believe you’re mistaken. My understanding is that this is not the case, and in Apple’s keynote, they specifically said that the two were interchangeable (an app itself cannot distinguish between the two as it appears to the app simply as biometric authentication). In my banking app, I had to turn on “Touch ID” in the settings after I set up my X, and it worked with Face ID. After it was updated, it changed the setting NAME to “Face ID”. But the functionality of Face ID worked from the beginning (but because it wasn’t updated, it still referred to it as “Touch ID”)
 

cyclingplatypus

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That is not my experience. Apps have to be modified to work with face-ID. A lot of apps support face-ID, but others don’t even if they work with touch-ID.

The only place I have encountered it is with the app store and approving apps, couldn't do it with F.ID but can with T.ID
 

lexvo

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Interesting, but I believe you’re mistaken. My understanding is that this is not the case, and in Apple’s keynote, they specifically said that the two were interchangeable (an app itself cannot distinguish between the two as it appears to the app simply as biometric authentication). In my banking app, I had to turn on “Touch ID” in the settings after I set up my X, and it worked with Face ID. After it was updated, it changed the setting NAME to “Face ID”. But the functionality of Face ID worked from the beginning (but because it wasn’t updated, it still referred to it as “Touch ID”)

I think you are right :)
My experience was probably based on some not so good written apps. Yesterday I discovered that an app that always worked with touch-ID had automatically switched that off. Turning touch-ID on enabled face-ID for that app on my iPhone-X. Thanks for pointing that out.
 

Black Tiger

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I think you are right :)
My experience was probably based on some not so good written apps. Yesterday I discovered that an app that always worked with touch-ID had automatically switched that off. Turning touch-ID on enabled face-ID for that app on my iPhone-X. Thanks for pointing that out.
No worries. I think it’s just the nature of introducing new tech. I think it is safe to say that it would have been a total gong show had apps been required to update to Face ID or treat the two separately. I remember how long it took for my bank to have enough faith to add Touch ID (years after they could have) and it would have been a huge step backward if developers had similar hesitations over Face ID. I’m glad Apple nipped this problem in the bud before it could be a problem.
 
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