Facebook Details Revamped Privacy Tools to Put Users 'More in Control' of Their Data

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    Following revelations that emerged last week about Facebook's misuse of user data, the company today said it has "heard loud and clear" that it needs to make it easier for users to know how to control their own privacy settings and data. These updates to Facebook mobile and on the web "have been in the works for some time," according to Facebook chief privacy officer Erin Egan, "but the events of the past several days underscore their importance."

    The first update is found in a redesigned settings menu on mobile devices, so instead of settings that are spread across "nearly 20 different screens," they're all in one place. This area is also now cleaned up so outdated menus are gone and it's more clear what user information can and can't be shared with apps.

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    A new Privacy Shortcuts menu launches users into an area where they can look at information regarding privacy, security, and ads "in just a few taps." This menu is also now clearer, has more visuals, and provides simple explanations for how each control option works. Below you'll find a breakdown of everything you can do when jumping into Privacy Shortcuts:
    In a new area called Access Your Information, users can access and manage data -- like posts, timeline memories, items on a profile, reactions, comments, and items searched for -- so that it can be easily deleted. Facebook said it's also making it easier to download the data shared on the site. Users can download a secure copy of photos uploaded, contacts, timeline posts, and more, "and even move it to another service."

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    Next, the company said that it plans to update its terms of service with the inclusion of "commitments to people," as well as update its data policy to "better spell out" what data is collected and how it's used. In total, Facebook said that all of these updates are about transparency, and "not about gaining new rights to collect, use, or share data."

    Apple CEO Tim Cook this past weekend described the Facebook scandal as "dire," calling for stronger privacy regulations in the wake of news that data firm Cambridge Analytica amassed data on 50 million Facebook users without their consent and targeted messages to voters during the 2016 presidential election. Facebook has now delayed the launch of its own entry into the smart speaker market, and CEO Mark Zuckerberg is set to testify in front of Congress on privacy in the coming weeks.

    Article Link: Facebook Details Revamped Privacy Tools to Put Users 'More in Control' of Their Data
     
  2. CerebralX macrumors 6502

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    Ah lovely, the false sense of security is strong in this one.
     
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    Too little, too late. Deactivated my Facebook account a year ago. If it was easier to delete it, I would do.
     
  4. tgdbowler macrumors member

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    Deactivated my account 4-5 months ago and haven't looked back.
     
  5. blackjackmark macrumors 6502

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    Anyone that has ever posted on Facebook and has ever expected any privacy has been deluding themselves.
     
  6. macaddict06 macrumors regular

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    To Facebook personal data = profits. They will never give you tools to get in the way of their bottom line.

    Any changes they ever make will only be to provide a false sense of security so that people are more willing to share data and Facebook profits more.

    This is how you turn a disaster into added profit. Facebook will be better off financially because of this leak.
     
  7. democracyrules, Mar 28, 2018
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    It is nice FaceBook protects the privacy of their users while it is not expected as they are not banking, insurance, a financial institution, a commercial company or any type of companies who are regulated for consumer protections due to sensitive information of their customer they are holding. Facebook is a “social pleasure” internet site that does not need to have sensitive information held. All their users are uploading their information including personal or pictures to ‘share’ with others. Uploading any information to internet sites are or should never expected to be private. Hence, leaks are expected especially from a social pleasure internet site like Facebook. Hence, this action is not smart and all Facebook users take their own risks of their information ‘voluntarily’ be exposed knowingly or unknowingly. Facebook should not be blamed for any leaks of their users’ information. Their users get the blames. Fortunate for me and those who do not have a Facebook account as we minimize the risks of exposing our information to the world.
     
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    This won’t save you, Mark Zuckerberg. Your company’s money is flying away as we speak.
     
  9. Argus9 macrumors newbie

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    Ah, a complicated, crowded menu to join the rest of Facebook's complicated, crowded menus. Maybe Facebook is hoping users give up in frustration and keep their settings as-is.
     
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    What exactly is anyone saying Facebook did wrong?

    I'd say that managing this stuff is complicated, and I give credit to Facebook for offering some rather clear controls with making information available, to "Public", "Friends", "Friends of Friends" and then having options to set up custom groups where you could more precisely define who could see it.

    I set up everything the way I like it. I'm aware that "Friends of Friends" is basically public and that I have little control over who can actually see it, and I'm okay with that.

    I feel like people are confused about what information was collected and assume it was all collected against their will or something, and that they're either (#1) mistaken in what was actually collected, or they're (#2) mistaken about the privacy settings they chose. And I think #1 is most likely - people are just angry for no reason, and the entire story is pretty much fabricated.
     
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    Look at the history of FaceBook he hacked into the university to get all the profiles of students for his original dating software. He knew just like any organisation profiling and data is the real money maker.
     
  12. NervousFish2 macrumors regular

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    What a load of twaddle. Facebook is not just a social pleasure. It has become a de facto public good. And, last time I checked, we live in a democracy (and for those of us who don’t, we mostly aspire to). So, despite the fact that it is privately owned, the reality is that Facebook users have rights, if they build a political movement to demand those rights. That’s how rights work! Facebook knows this. And they’d be fools not to get their affairs in order.
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    What’s wrong is that an academic researcher scraped data at a massive step of remove from the users he was supposed to studying, and then sold that data to a political firm that specializes in ‘fixing’ public opinion. This was a violation of Facebook terms. And users were never told that this could happen.
     
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    What sharing settings had the user set? If A and B are users who are Facebook friends, and A says data can be shared with friends of friends, and C is an app that asked for permission to be "friendly" with B, then C has access to that data on A. What's the problem here? "Friends of friends" may as well be "a random subset of everyone" - it's not like you're going to monitor your entire friend list to make sure none of them are making dubious choices of friends.
     
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    If you and I are friends on FB, you can't give a 3rd party app permission to scrape my personal information. FB 3rd party permission settings allowed that to happen. I am pretty sure you and most everyone else was unaware.
    That's the issue in a nutshell.
     
  15. tennisproha macrumors 65816

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    This is literally what they say every time. "We're giving you more control!"
     
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    This:
     
  17. arefbe macrumors 6502

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    Or at least give users the illusion that they're more in control of their data.
     
  18. SuperMatt macrumors 6502a

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    Step 1 - login to Facebook
    Step 2 - delete your account

    To quote Jeff Goldblum... “there is no step 3!”
     
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    How many times has Facebook revamped its privacy controls? I am pretty sure this isn't the first time.
     
  20. ArtOfWarfare macrumors G3

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    There'd be 2 steps to it:
    1 - I approved the app.
    2 - You set the data to "Friends of Friends" or "Public".

    Quite frankly, #2 is an artificial limitation. I could always write a screen scraper that people install on their computers (no Facebook approval necessary) and then have that collect the data.

    You invited me to be your friend, and I allowed that app access to what I have access to. It's no different than you telling me something about yourself and me repeating it. If you didn't want it shared, you shouldn't have told me it. Once someone else knows your secret, it's not a secret anymore.
     
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    Your reasoning is flawed. You give the app access. I don't give the app access. I have my data set to Friends. But by virtue of being your friend, my wishes are circumvented. So yes, it's completely different. The analogy fails. Me telling you something about me doesn't give you license to let someone else harvest all the rest of my personal information.
     
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    Another reason to own an iPhone iOS because their app was snooping on android devices.
     
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    What we want is "Delete everything except friend links" Button.
     
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    All of this is true with one exception, the fact that FB Messenger on Android was just exposed as full-fledged spyware recording the phone's call and text history (i.e. not calls/texts made in the app). This was last Monday, and it was the first time I was upset with FB.
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    Privacy policy allows for that too.
     

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