LMAO no. I’ll stick with my imessage. If my friends doesn’t have imessage, they can text me lol
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Nice passive aggressive response
Doesn’t change the facts though. iMessage is the no frills GSM SMS client. That is how it works. That is how you implement standards securely. That is how you get accepted and access to networks.
None of those additional effects work unless you aren’t sending an SMS.
And if you are sending an SMS it is utterly pointless to have any of those other apps as the default messaging app as they are not part of nor integrated with the GSM SMS standard. They just use the internet and have their own proprietary servers and protocols. No open standards there.
I don’t know if you’ve noticed, but when you use the send function in iOS you get a lot of recently used contacts across a variety of messaging platforms. I get a variety of airdrop, SMS, iMessage, WhatsApp etc. It’s nice and easy as it makes it contact or group centric opposed to application centric. And is that not what matters most? Being able to contact your contacts easily without having to think about what messaging tool to use or that they are not on the default messaging system.
Jeez SMS is the phone standard and network standard for mobile phones since several decades. It works with all phones! All you need to know is their number. No need for different applications etc.
Also SMS works much better when in low signal areas, and for emergency purposes can go cross network if there is no signal on your network.
And telegram is even worse. There is no accountability with such non standard systems. Anyone can create an account and delete it at will. Whilst I get the convenience especially regarding group messaging, it just doesn’t have the robustness of SMS at all.
Nice passive aggressive response
Doesn’t change the facts though. iMessage is the no frills GSM SMS client. That is how it works. That is how you implement standards securely. That is how you get accepted and access to networks.
None of those additional effects work unless you aren’t sending an SMS.
And if you are sending an SMS it is utterly pointless to have any of those other apps as the default messaging app as they are not part of nor integrated with the GSM SMS standard. They just use the internet and have their own proprietary servers and protocols. No open standards there.
I don’t know if you’ve noticed, but when you use the send function in iOS you get a lot of recently used contacts across a variety of messaging platforms. I get a variety of airdrop, SMS, iMessage, WhatsApp etc. It’s nice and easy as it makes it contact or group centric opposed to application centric. And is that not what matters most? Being able to contact your contacts easily without having to think about what messaging tool to use or that they are not on the default messaging system.
I know how forum angst can be, but I really didn't mean to be passive aggressive. Usually I'm plain aggressive and end up getting suspended by admins lol
Technically you're 100% right. Practically, the only SMS's I receive lately are 2-factor authentication codes, and everything else goes through other apps. I'm aware of the alt options for sharing/sending on the popup modals, I guess I'm just not too fond of the Messages app at all.
Really? robustness of SMS? SMS is the worst! And anyone can create a Google Voice account (or use one the the 100's junk apps for SMS) also. I rather use Telegram over SMS any day. SMS is extremely unsecured.
Yes, I'm aware that there are some regional differences, the USA is (again) not that great with its laws regarding consumer protection, a shame. It is a US and Canada loophole. SMS is part of the GSM standard, Google Voice isn't part of that standard but under those weak laws, the regulators seem to allow it. But that is very different than telegram; just the fact it allows you to change your ID, and have it different from your username, and have duplicates are some very dangerous features.
The robustness comment was regarding the use of a mobile phone. When you have no signal and no data you cannot utilize telegram. Yet SMS as part the standard can still go through in emergency situations. In addition, there is no need nor dependency on centralized infrastructure, it is decentralized by design.
Not only that. Whatsapp communication (including voice/video calls) are included (no data usage from your data allowence) in most carries in the world, making it basically essential on these Places. Even oficial judicial orders are given throught it... they started allowing payments as well. So, in no time, whatsapp will be the biggest fintech (bank) in these countries. iMessage is just bleak.
Judicial orders via whatsapp. Wow that scares the living daylights out of me. What country is that?
thats where it makes sense though... not so much personal info (messages vs music tastes). i dont want FB knowing who i text etc... i barely use fb messenger... too many "chain"/spam messages.
I have zero signal in my basement, I cannot send an SMS, so I am not sure how you're able too without signal. I can at least be on WiFi and anything data will work, iMessage, Telegram, anything.
Because for emergency purposes it can switch to another network that you aren't part of, it is part of the standard and seamless. Naturally, if you have signal, as you have wifi
you can continue to use SMS for non-emergency purposes as well just as you can use other services. I think you misunderstand the bit without signal