The data clearly shows that the importance of wearing masks to reduce the spread of the virus. Stop spreading FUD.
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iPhone XS Max FaceID Sucks in a pandemic...
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The data clearly shows that the importance of wearing masks to reduce the spread of the virus. Stop spreading FUD.
That would be true if, as originally thought, surface contamination was the major concern. However, over time the evidence has indicated that the risk of surface contamination is lower than originally thought, while the risk of airborne transmission is much higher than originally thought.
Touching and rewearing masks is far from ideal, and most masks won't provide that much protection to the wearer, but they demonstrably have a significant effect in reducing the airborne risk to others. Simply put, we now know that we need to wear masks to keep others safe, and touching the mask (though a bad practice from the wearer's perspective) does not in any way diminish the mask's ability to improve the safety of others.
With respect not really. When your Face ID (or Touch ID) fails is backs up to a PIN.
ANY phone (iPhone, Android, ANY) is as vulnerable to hacking as any other PIN. Hence make a complex password (not the 4 or 6 digit PIN). This Face ID is more secure is marketing gooblygook that Apple is feeding the public. Face ID is NOT more secure when biometric methods resort to PIN when they fail, which is the weakest link.
More CONVENIENT, debatable/personal preference if you like fingerprint vs face scanning and with masks etc.
That is Apple marketing speak to make it sound so special. If someone was going to steal and 3D clone your fingerprint with the steps it took to fool Touch ID you have bigger problems anyway. But not when you default back to a PIN either way is not more secure; a simple Graykey will beat all for much less effort than cloning biometrics.
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You have quoted my post from several months ago at which point the WHO were actively advising against the wearing of masks outside of a medical setting.
Since their advice has changed, so has mine. I have no intention of modifying my post since it’s a snapshot in time, however if a moderator wishes to delete it then that is of course their right.
It depends on what type of face covering you wear or are required to wear for your job.
I work from home so no mask requiredBut when I do venture out into the world I wear a plastic see through face shield. It is accepted everywhere and has the added luxury of letting me breath easier and FaceID works.
I wear to the gym and it is so nice to be able to breathe!
I take the subway, amongst other things. Some people get on the train without a mask on with a look that says "I DARE you to ask me about it". Me, I'd feel badly if I accidentally sneezed without a mask - it would probably worry my fellow passengers for a week. Plus, I'd probably get stabbed if that happened.
You should be minimizing the amount of times you touch your mask.
Apple really needs to add under-screen Touch ID to Face ID, even if it's not the fastest in the market, now that much of the world are wearing masks. They should make it a priority over AirPower for eg. It's a much more essential feature now.
I also never thought of the Asian markets & their typical mask-wearing lifestyles & the potential connection to lower iPhone sales over there. Interesting to see how their sales go once dual biometric authentication comes to the iPhone.
Does FaceID not automatically recognise your face is covered and bring up the passcode? I thought that was a patch Apple had released to help with the pandemic? I don’t own a FaceID phone yet and can’t see it being a huge problem for me as it’s rare I’m in places that require a mask and when I am, I’m not really using my phone 
Do you really believe these other manufacturers thought of pandemic proofing their phones in advance of the pandemic?
There will be a time where Apple will offer both biometric security options with touch ID/Face ID at some point. The only stipulation I foresee happening, is if Apple only includes both options on the most expensive iPhone Models, which may not be ideal for some consumers.
Hopefully Apple now realizes that. IPhones should have both Face and Touch I.D.
Not only in a Pandemic but in normal life such as your iPhone sitting on your desk you can use Touch ID
Apple has received patents for an underscreen scanner so it’s not that the technology doesn’t exist
Not only in a Pandemic but in normal life such as your iPhone sitting on your desk you can use Touch ID
Apple has received patents for an underscreen scanner so it’s not that the technology doesn’t exist
I would say that Samsung offers three alternatives to passwords (face /iris / fingerprint) for exactly this reason. Masks are a common courtesy in some countries.
It is admittedly a bit of a pain, but I'm willing to bet it's not as much of a pain as wearing a ventilator.
I'll cope with punching in a PIN just fine for now thanks. 👍
I'll cope with punching in a PIN just fine for now thanks. 👍
It’s extra annoying if your passcode is something more secure than a short numeric pin. I’ve seen people on trains here in London taking masks off to unlock iPhones and leaving them off for the rest of their journey. It looks like many places will have many more months of wearing masks. And some people will continue wearing masks out of respect to others after the pandemic so it seems like this this is a problem worth fixing.
For me the annoyance comes not from iOS, as the update that was pushed out earlier this summer made the passcode option come up quickly. My annoyance is with the multitude of apps that also authenticate with FaceID...they do not seem to prompt for a passcode, and in most cases don't even provide the passcode as an option. Since I use all the random generated passwords for sites I have to go into settings, find the password, copy it, then return to the app.
That bit of early "advice" from the WHO did SO MUCH DAMAGE making people unsure if masks are effective. There is nothing worse than conflicting information.
Hopefully next time there is a situation like this they will SHUT UP until they have enough information to give proper advice.
"They said not to wear masks, then they did! How can we trust them?" I've heard so many varieties of that. If we'd all worn masks from the start, or were simply never told to NOT wear them, this would be nowhere near as bad as it's been.
It’s my guess that they either suspected or knew that masks were effective even early on, but told the public otherwise because of the mask shortage in order to allow more masks to go to front line workers.
Yep, but the whole advantage of Face ID has been taken back not one (Touch ID) but two steps now since the passcode's required.Does FaceID not automatically recognise your face is covered and bring up the passcode? I thought that was a patch Apple had released to help with the pandemic? I don’t own a FaceID phone yet and can’t see it being a huge problem for me as it’s rare I’m in places that require a mask and when I am, I’m not really using my phone
LG face ID works perfectly with a mask. It's somehow related to AI learning... And AFAIK LG is supplying Apple with the Z Camera TOF... Try scanning your face with a mask, or add multiple faces... Idk if possible on Apple...
It could possibly be that 3D depth is partially or totally ignored in the LG mask unlock... 😂 or only the eyes and forehead depth data is used.... Who knows...
I suppose for those who are in situations where they wear masks a lot, it’s annoying. I don’t know why Apple didn’t put a TouchID sensor somewhere else on the phone rather than the front. I feel they went down the FaceID route just to bring something new at the time but to be honest it doesn’t bother me how I open my phone. Then again we’d get people complaining that they can’t open their phone with gloves on, so they’ll be annoyance at whatever.