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Facetime on wi-fi only?

What a cry baby! Did you pop out of your Mom's womb and speak a language? NO ... This has JUST been announced ... It is in its infancy!

Did the first iphone have any of its current features? Did many feature improve over time? Did carriers give into demand of some things over time?

Cmon and stop dissing and bitching about progress!
 
Marty Macfly said:
Okay, because if that's how it is, it's one of the more awesome things available. I was under the impression that you had to be on-call with them first, and then if you both met all the conditions, you'd have the option only in the call menu.

If it can be called separately, that'd pave the way for desktop iChat access... :rolleyes: <=== not rolling eyes, wistful thinking.
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That front-facing camera on the new iPhone 4 and a flood of leaks were a dead giveaway -- the new FaceTime app brings video calling to the iPhone. Unfortunately, it's WiFi-only at the moment, as Steve says Apple needs to work with carriers to support it on 3G. The FaceTime app is pretty cool -- you can flip the image between the front and rear cameras and between portrait and landscape orientation, and the video call system is built on open standards like SIP, H.264, and AAC so it'll work with other video calling apps such as skype and fring as well.
 
JodyK said:
What a cry baby! Did you pop out of your Mom's womb and speak a language? NO ... This has JUST been announced ... It is in its infancy!

Did the first iphone have any of its current features? Did many feature improve over time? Did carriers give into demand of some things over time?

Cmon and stop dissing and bitching about progress!
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so its a open source format that any dev can use to make a video chat app on iphone with
 
maybe the next generation ipod touch will have a front facing camera to open up the amount of users using facetime since it is a wifi only (for now) app
 
http://gizmodo.com/5557484/what-is-facetime

read this artcle above even other phone manufacturers can use it thats a good thing purely open standard instead of hundreds of phones with hundreds of incompatable video chat software i like that we will be able to video chat with our friends no matter what phone os they use and no matter if they use skype fring googletalk etc etc all have the option to use the facetime standard
 
bboycrew said:
http://gizmodo.com/5557484/what-is-facetime

read this artcle above even other phone manufacturers can use it thats a good thing purely open standard instead of hundreds of phones with hundreds of incompatable video chat software i like that we will be able to video chat with our friends no matter what phone os they use and no matter if they use skype fring googletalk etc etc all have the option to use the facetime standard
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facetime uses sip which my n900 uses so once skype adds sip to its iphone app iphone and n900 owners can chat to each other http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Session_Initiation_Protocol
 
while apple is touting this as an awesome new feature and a major selling point, what they are really trying to do is completely revolutionise video chat. thats why they made it completely open sourced and are applying for it to become an open standard. that means that anybody will be able to create an app based on facetime for all types of different platforms. Apple will probably include this in iChat as well.

its the same thing they are doing with the mini Display-Port. they made it a royalty free standard, and its a very good standard, and now other manufacturers of computers are beginning to adopt it.

that is what will happen with facetime. it will just take a while
 
SIP is an open standard and has been used for video for some time now. Apple has added a few new transport mechanisms for their videoconferencing app, released these extensions to the SIP protocol as an additional open standard (similiar to what Skype did except their's is not an open standard) and called it called it FaceTime (Ugh, I hate that name). Any developer *should be able to write a videoconferencing app utilizing standard SIP or FT for video calling and use the same audio/video codecs and get similiar quality out of it. This assumes Apple doesn't get "wonky" and restrict access to hardware again or anything like that. So, as long as this is an open standard that devs can use today I would be surprised if Qik, Skype and others weren't in the App Store by the end of July.

Regardless of the app used to video chat Apple has genuinely done some outstanding work on this. Ease-of-use alone looks to be second to none: no registration to SIP servers or creating accounts just dial a contact and if they have an iPhone 4 you can call via video. Also, using multitouch to drag the PiP window wherever you want within the interface is brilliant. Portrait or landscape mode flipping and camera switching (seemlessly) also look better implemented than I have seen in any other clients to date. Very well done on Apple's part.

Obviously, they aren't the first to have most of these features and by "closing" the video compatibility clients down to just other iPhone 4 users they can better control the experience. However, this seems to be a good approach; by controlling it more closely they are able to deliver what appears to be a better video call experience on a phone than I've ever seen.
 
davwin said:
SIP is an open standard and has been used for video for some time now. Apple has added a few new transport mechanisms for their videoconferencing app, released these extensions to the SIP protocol as an additional open standard and called it called it FaceTime (I hate that name). Any developer *should be able to write a videoconferencing app utilizing standard SIP or FT for video calling and use the same audio/video codecs and get similiar quality out of it. This assumes Apple doesn't get "wonky" and restrict access to hardware again or anything like that. So, as long as this is an open standard that devs can use today I would be surprised if Qik, Skype and others weren't in the App Store by the end of July.
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I also wouldn't be surprised if programs like Qik added FT integration so that someone on a Evo can FT with an iPhone user without the need of downloading extra apps.
 
Revelation78 said:
I also wouldn't be surprised if programs like Qik added FT integration so that someone on a Evo can FT with an iPhone user without the need of downloading extra apps.
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You could be quite right :) We are looking at doing that very thing for a corporate VTC client right now...
 
As of now you can one way video over 3G with a phone call in the background with Knocking Live. (Available for free in the app store)

Still the best video available iPhone to iPhone until the 24th. Jailbreaking will take care of the rest after that!
 
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