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Dwalls90

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Deleting Thread - Some people can't help but only flame, I guess.
 
Someone's confused. Maybe this will help:
fact |fakt|
noun
a thing that is indisputably the case
speculate |ˈspekyəˌlāt|
verb [ intrans. ]
1 form a theory or conjecture about a subject without firm evidence​

The OP is speculating, not stating confirmed fact.
 
Are you being deliberately obtuse? I said Most of his points were facts, which they were.

You're trolling..

No, I'm stating fact, which is different from speculation. The OP named the thread, "Facts of the future Macbook Pro CPU's", not "Facts about Intel CPUs" and not "Speculation about the future Macbook Pro CPU's"
 
Sure thing - you can trot along and claim that Apple will completely revolutionize their notebooks, only months after already changing the specs. It's not economically viable to be changing your product line all the time, Apple only updates in 8 month intervals. Plus - you KNOW they want Arrandale in their computers. Why would they upgrade to Clarksfield only to switch to Arrandale a few months or weeks later? Sure - call it speculation, but your argument is comparable to saying that my car with an MPG rating of 30 and a tank capacity of 20 will get 1000 miles on a single tank.
 
it is all speculation...


if its fact...then i guess its safe to say apple is switching to the RS series ATI IGP which is as fast as the 9400M and much more logical decision then the intel integrated versions.
 
Apple will scratch your balls for you. Is this confirmed by Apple? No. Am I basing this off of Apple's trends in which they have followed for many years? Yes

Thanks for the heads up Moore...
 
The Apple community doesn't already have enough self-proclaimed pundits with AMAZING insight and "facts" to share...... nope..... no we don't. :rolleyes:
 
Sure thing - you can trot along and claim that Apple will completely revolutionize their notebooks, only months after already changing the specs. It's not economically viable to be changing your product line all the time, Apple only updates in 8 month intervals. Plus - you KNOW they want Arrandale in their computers. Why would they upgrade to Clarksfield only to switch to Arrandale a few months or weeks later? Sure - call it speculation, but your argument is comparable to saying that my car with an MPG rating of 30 and a tank capacity of 20 will get 1000 miles on a single tank.

Who the hell are you arguing with? Yourself? No post in this thread has claimed anything about Apple's future products, except yours. Who said Apple is or isn't updating anything after 8 months, or any other interval, except you? Who said Apple is upgrading to Clarksfield OR Arrandale, besides you? Do you have an invisible 6' rabbit you're arguing with? Whose "arguments" are you challenging? And who cares how many miles you get on a tank of gas? You seriously need to get back on your meds!

The only challenge you're getting in this thread is that what you claim to be "fact" is purely speculation on your part, since you have no inside information about what Apple's future product development will be.
 
I'm not telling people what to think, nor am I telling people what Apple will do. I simply posted what Intel is doing, and what Apple has done in the past, along with pointing out some facts such as an IGP is not an integrated GPU (90% of people on these forums make that mistake).

Man, stop the trolling already. Apple fanbois can be oh so catty.
 
I'm not telling people what to think, nor am I telling people what Apple will do. I simply posted what Intel is doing, and what Apple has done in the past, along with pointing out some facts such as an IGP is not an integrated GPU (90% of people on these forums make that mistake).

Man, stop the trolling already. Apple fanbois can be oh so catty.

IGP = Integrated Graphics Processor

90% of the people are right...

both major graphics card manufactures think that IGP is integrated graphics.

so what are you trying to say....there wrong....

another great thread by Dwalls
 
hopefully this can be stickied at some point

I sure hope not.

Most of the OP's points were actually facts..

Nope.

Are you being deliberately obtuse? I said Most of his points were facts, which they were.

You're trolling..

Nope.

Plus - you KNOW they want Arrandale in their computers.

No, I don't, and neither do you.

Sure - call it speculation,

It's speculation.

but your argument is comparable to saying that my car with an MPG rating of 30 and a tank capacity of 20 will get 1000 miles on a single tank.

Not only is this a completely, laughably incorrect comparison... no, that's about it. These are nonsense words.

Gosh, he's like me, but BLATANTLY stating his speculation as fact. :p If you want to do this kind of thing in the future, be sure to call the thread "The 2010 (Arrandale) MacBook Pro: Everything We Know" ;)
 
I'm not telling people what to think, nor am I telling people what Apple will do. I simply posted what Intel is doing, and what Apple has done in the past, along with pointing out some facts such as an IGP is not an integrated GPU (90% of people on these forums make that mistake).

Man, stop the trolling already. Apple fanbois can be oh so catty.

I still don't get the point of this thread.

- Apple refreshes it's lines more or less, every 8 months. That said, a refresh is not due until early 2010. Do not anticipate a change this fall, especially with the minor bumps that happened in June.

Apple has updated MacBook two times in a year since 2002 (excluding 2005). And now MacBook is almost dead (only one model), MacBook Pro is Apple's main target.

- Late 2009 is when Intel is going to release Clarksfield. Clarksfield is a four-core, octo-threaded, 45nm processor built on the Nehalem architecture. Based on past release increments and trends, Apple will not use Clarksfield

That's true, Sep-Oct release. Apple won't use them because high clocked duals vs. low clocked quads (3.06GHz vs. 2GHz), that confuses the customer. Also, Clarksfields are 45W and 55W, quite hot for laptop.

- Early 2010 is when Intel has planned to unleash Arrandale. Arrandale is a dual-core, quad-threaded, 32nm processor built on the Nehalem architecture. However, it differs from Clarksfield in that it has a GPU built right next to the CPU on the die. This is called an IGP.

- Intel's IGP that will launch with Arrandale only has half the performance of the 9400M.

Q4 '09 is still possible but IMO, it's going to be 2010 because otherwise Clarksfield will be killed almost immediately.

IGP is good thing IMO. GPU isn't needed in everyday tasks such as e-mailing, web surfing... I hope prices comes down because no need for GPU like 9400M
 
Man, stop the trolling already. Apple fanbois can be oh so catty.
Just because someone doesn't agree with you doesn't mean they're trolling. And I'm not a "fanboy" or any other kind of boy. Discerning the difference between fact and speculation takes basic intelligence, not some unwarranted allegiance to any company or its products. You can speculate all day long, but don't call it fact.... because it's not.
 
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