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mactinkerlover

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Anything besides istatisica available right now? How long until macs fan control gets m1 support? I really want to see how hot my m1 macbook pro gets and the fan speeds.
 

cupcakes2000

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Check out stats for menu bar monitoring It’s open source, and what I use. I don’t have an m1 mac so not sure if it will work but it might. Worth a look though.
 

mactinkerlover

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Check out stats for menu bar monitoring It’s open source, and what I use. I don’t have an m1 mac so not sure if it will work but it might. Worth a look though.
istats doesn't work. Only shows the ssd temperature and doesn't show cpu temp or fan speed.
 

Anonymous Freak

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Someone reported running their 13" MacBook Pro at 100% CPU load for hours, the fan was barely audible, and the CPU was only at ~30 C.

My Mac Mini has been running 100% CPU load nonstop for a couple days now, it's inaudible, the exhaust is "kind of warm", and Stats says my fan is 1700 RPM, temp is 36 C, drawing 19 Watts.

Don't worry about monitoring temp/fan speed. Except *MAYBE* on the Air.
 
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Idec50

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Mine is hot under certain conditions, but the fan won't turn on. I'd like to force it on. Anybody figure out how?
 
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mactinkerlover

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Can't you feel it on the bottom like with the Intel MacBooks? Best advise is to forget about trying to obsess over operating parameters of your new computer.
No, I want to see if apple is running the cpu at 100 degrees like they were with intel or if it's running cooler.
 

chabig

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No, I want to see if apple is running the cpu at 100 degrees like they were with intel or if it's running cooler.
1. There is plenty of that information online, both in reviews and here.


2. Touch your machine. If it's at 100 degrees you'll feel it.
 
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NT1440

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No, I want to see if apple is running the cpu at 100 degrees like they were with intel or if it's running cooler.
...use your palm? It’s STRIKINGLY clear that these chips don’t get hot anywhere near the way the Intel ones do.
 
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Idec50

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Don't try to force anything. The machine does its own thermal management. Your car (assuming ICE) has a fan in front of the radiator. You don't manually manage that do you? It operates as it is designed. Same thing.

If I was a professional racing driver and noticed my car was running hot I sure as hell would look into it. That's not my job, but it's analogous.
 

leman

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I don’t see much point in having fan control for these Macs given the fact that you never hear the fan. I actually got my M1 MBP to get warm - by building the Haskell compiler under Rosetta on 8 parallel processes, which took ages. The laptop was warm to touch - still cooler than my 16” doing anything remotely intensive - and the fan was dead silent.
 
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brainkilla

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Stats, not istats


There’s also an open source app called iStats, not to be confused with iStats Menus:

 

pshufd

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TG Pro is very nice.

The Mini runs a few degrees cooler than my Windows desktop on the CPU. My Windows CPU cores generally run around 28 to 35. My GPUs typically run 40 and 36 respectively (it has two GPUs). I opened eight YouTube tabs and the temps spiked to 35 degrees and then came back down. Very impressive CPU.

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Queen6

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Mac Fan Control works. Don't see much call for the app under normal use, equally if you need to push your Apple Silicon Mac hard in a hot environment and don't want to loose any performance the app is a solution. I kind of also think that if you have a system monitor it may as well have some functionality.

Personally I don't AutoStart Macs Fan Control and will just manually start as and when needed. One data point of Macs Fan Control stood out to me as the app while open will log the batteries maximum temperature, which is useful for those of us with portables.

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Queen6

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TBH I think that you would have to be literally hammering both CPU & GPU continuously before you would see any throttling tendency if at all with the M1 MBP. Even with the 30 minute run with Cinebench R23 the fan still has a good deal of headroom for additional cooling.

FWIW M1 13" MBP 8GB base model, macOS 11.5.1, Cinebench R23; 30 minute run, ambient temp 26C, max temp 92C, max fan 4.5K RPM, max battery temp 32C, scored 7814 pts.
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Monitored by Macs Fan Control, fan set to Apple default setting, no additional boost.

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jdb8167

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TBH I think that you would have to be literally hammering both CPU & GPU continuously before you would see any throttling tendency if at all with the M1 MBP. Even with the 30 minute run with Cinebench R23 the fan still has a good deal of headroom for additional cooling.

FWIW M1 13" MBP 8GB base model, macOS 11.5.1, Cinebench R23; 30 minute run, ambient temp 26C, max temp 92C, max fan 4.5K RPM, max battery temp 32C, scored 7814 pts.
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Monitored by Macs Fan Control, fan set to Apple default setting, no additional boost.

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I’d be curious to know if you run both Cinebench and a graphics benchmark like 3DMark Wild Life Extreme simultaneously if you see any throttling on the M1 MacBook Pro. I’ve run both along with the command line powermetrics tool and see some pretty extreme throttling on the M1 MacBook Air but that is to be expected.
 

Queen6

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I’d be curious to know if you run both Cinebench and a graphics benchmark like 3DMark Wild Life Extreme simultaneously if you see any throttling on the M1 MacBook Pro. I’ve run both along with the command line powermetrics tool and see some pretty extreme throttling on the M1 MacBook Air but that is to be expected.
I've not tried I may, that said I don't see it being a very likely scenario. The fan has a lot more headroom with a maximum of 7K RPM. Just looking at the M1 MBP under full load Apple seem to want the SOC to top out at 90C as the cooling system reacts rapidly to bring temps down to 90C then reduce the fan speed.

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pshufd

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I ran some video transcoding on my M1 mini and it was using 600%+ CPU for 7 minutes. I didn't hear the fan at all. I didn't detect any heat coming from the mini either. The trial period on the temperature monitor program I was using expired a while ago. I don't feel that I need a temperature monitor with this thing. I think that the highest temperature that I saw on it was 37 degrees.
 

Queen6

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I ran some video transcoding on my M1 mini and it was using 600%+ CPU for 7 minutes. I didn't hear the fan at all. I didn't detect any heat coming from the mini either. The trial period on the temperature monitor program I was using expired a while ago. I don't feel that I need a temperature monitor with this thing. I think that the highest temperature that I saw on it was 37 degrees.
Mac's Fan Control is free :) nor would I pay for one as I also don't see much need on the M1 Mac's. On the M1 MBP I've not seen the CPU core temps exceed 92C other SOC sensors much less or the fan pass 5K with extended use for several hours.

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jdb8167

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I've not tried I may, that said I don't see it being a very likely scenario. The fan has a lot more headroom with a maximum of 7K RPM. Just looking at the M1 MBP under full load Apple seem to want the SOC to top out at 90C as the cooling system reacts rapidly to bring temps down to 90C then reduce the fan speed.

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I would hope under all-CPU/all-GPU core it still wouldn't throttle but I don't think I've seen anyone test it. I was kind of fascinated watching the power management of the M1 MBA using powermetrics. It was fun to watch as the temperature rose, the performance cores started throttling down and then the GPU cores. At equilibrium the power management was giving just about 50-50 to CPU and GPU. Using both at the same time was also the only time I ever saw any throttling on the efficiency cores.
 
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