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I guess you know that there is a whole "league" out there and at this moment our team rank is #21. And we are loosing ground!! So we need every bit of processing power we can lay our hands on and defend our #21 spot. Especially from those tin cans...
 
DeSnousa said:
Yay completed my first fold. Quick question how does folding@home help macrumors, ive been reading this in places.
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Well If you fold for our team(3446) It helps us it get better stats!
 
Grrrrr! I added my PC to Folding, using my username and team 3446, it re-set my statistics back to all zeroes! I dropped from ~65,000th place to last! :mad: :eek: :(

Update:
Going through the Folding website gives my correct statistics, using the link in the client gives the version of my account with all zeroes. They both still say I'm on team 0 though... :???:
 
So how long will it be until all these stats sites start recording my data. I just started today...
 
Once you complete a work unit.

I just completed my first. I started yesterday, and left it running overnight on my iBook, and it completed sometime today. So give it time. :)
 
ghostee said:
Once you complete a work unit.

I just completed my first. I started yesterday, and left it running overnight on my iBook, and it completed sometime today. So give it time. :)
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Thanks, it should be done by the time I come home after finals tomorrow...:)
 
Hey i have downloaded mc68k single processor script to run in the background. Any way i had to restart my computer. And therefore relaunch the terminal and use the "start" command to relaunch F@H in the background. This worked but then when i went to close the terminal it closed the F@H being processed. How do i make it run in the background like i first did when i used the script. Thanks in advance.
 
zimv20 said:
stick an ampersand & at the end to run it in the background
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Is it:

start&

cause if it is it is not working i get this message

-bash: syntax error near unexpected token `&'

Can you guide me through it with steps please, im a noob at the terminal.

Thanks
 
Okay i have done many attempts at solving the problem including the command rid and reinstalling.

I think im just going to have to have the app boot at login then stopping it manually.

If any one has an idea please post as it is starting to annoy me.

Edit: i just realized that by running the script again it goes into setting and than runs F@H5 in the background.
 
Increase on a dual server??

Anyone else running InCrease on a Dual Xserve? I'm running it on my 2 G3's and a new Dell but I'm not sure of installing it on the new G5 Xserve we have. (Dual 2.3 processor, 80gb and mirrored 520gb drives with 4gb RAM) I'm the admin on it and my boss gave me the go-ahead to use it for Folding. (admin HA! I'm in commercial printing, what do I know about being an IT:confused: ) Anyway I'm learning this network stuff and during the process I'd love to have this thing crankin' on a few Tinkers:rolleyes:

Thanks, Sparky
 
Okay, this time there appears to be a real problem and just not a lag in speed. keeps failing to get work to do, after apparently not finishing another job first.

Code: 
Steve@linux:~/Folding@home> ./FAH502-Linux.exe

Note: Please read the license agreement (FAH502-Linux.exe -license). Further
use of this software requires that you have read and accepted this agreement.


The file FAHlog.txt has been locked by the operating system and cannot be
 opened for writing (possibly because it is open in another application).
Before you next run F@H, please ensure FAHlog.txt is not open anywhere,
 or simply delete it. For now, FAHlog2.txt will be used.


--- Opening Log file [January 4 22:08:25]


# Linux Console Edition #######################################################
###############################################################################

                       Folding@Home Client Version 5.02

                          http://folding.stanford.edu

###############################################################################
###############################################################################

Launch directory: /home/Steve/Folding@home
Executable: ./FAH502-Linux.exe


[22:08:25] - Ask before connecting: No
[22:08:25] - User name: maestro55 (Team 3446)
[22:08:25] - User ID: 5D001C1039CE1E11
[22:08:25] - Machine ID: 1
[22:08:25]
[22:08:25] Loaded queue successfully.
[22:08:25] + Benchmarking ...
[22:08:31]
[22:08:31] + Processing work unit
[22:08:31] Core required: FahCore_78.exe
[22:08:31] Core found.
[22:08:31] Working on Unit 04 [January 4 22:08:31]
[22:08:31] + Working ...
[22:08:31]
[22:08:31] *------------------------------*
[22:08:31] Folding@Home Gromacs Core
[22:08:31] Version 1.86 (August 28, 2005)
[22:08:31]
[22:08:31] Preparing to commence simulation
[22:08:31] - Looking at optimizations...
[22:08:31] - Created dyn
[22:08:31] - Files status OK
[22:08:31] - Expanded 1040242 -> 6541398 (decompressed 628.8 percent)
[22:08:31] - Starting from initial work packet
[22:08:31]
[22:08:31] Project: 768 (Run 4, Clone 29, Gen 0)
[22:08:31]
[22:08:31] Assembly optimizations on if available.
[22:08:31] Entering M.D.
[22:08:31] Protein: p768_vln3.8pbc
[22:08:31]
[22:08:31] Writing local files
[22:08:31] Extra 3DNow boost OK.
[22:08:31] Writing local files
[22:08:31] Completed 0 out of 250000 steps  (0%)
[22:08:31] Writing local files
[22:08:31] Completed 2500 out of 250000 steps  (1%)
[22:08:31] Writing local files
[22:08:31] Completed 5000 out of 250000 steps  (2%)
[22:08:31] Writing local files
[22:08:31] Completed 7500 out of 250000 steps  (3%)
[22:08:31] Writing local files
[22:08:31] Completed 10000 out of 250000 steps  (4%)
[22:08:31] Writing local files
[22:08:31] Completed 12500 out of 250000 steps  (5%)
[22:08:31] Writing local files
[22:08:31] Completed 15000 out of 250000 steps  (6%)
[22:08:31] Writing local files
[22:08:31] Completed 17500 out of 250000 steps  (7%)
[22:08:31] Writing local files
[22:08:31] Completed 20000 out of 250000 steps  (8%)
[22:08:31] Writing local files
[22:08:31] Completed 22500 out of 250000 steps  (9%)
[22:08:31] Writing local files
[22:08:31] Completed 25000 out of 250000 steps  (10%)
[22:08:31] Writing local files
[22:08:31] Completed 27500 out of 250000 steps  (11%)
[22:08:31] Writing local files
[22:08:31] Completed 30000 out of 250000 steps  (12%)
[22:08:31] Writing local files
[22:08:31] Completed 32500 out of 250000 steps  (13%)
[22:08:31] Writing local files
[22:08:31] Completed 35000 out of 250000 steps  (14%)
[22:08:31] Writing local files
[22:08:31] Completed 37500 out of 250000 steps  (15%)
[22:08:31] Writing local files
[22:08:31] Completed 40000 out of 250000 steps  (16%)
[22:08:31] Writing local files
[22:08:31] Completed 42500 out of 250000 steps  (17%)
[22:08:31] Writing local files
[22:08:31] Completed 45000 out of 250000 steps  (18%)
[22:08:31] Writing local files
[22:08:31] Completed 47500 out of 250000 steps  (19%)
[22:08:31] Writing local files
[22:08:31] Completed 50000 out of 250000 steps  (20%)
[22:08:31] Writing local files
[22:08:31] Completed 52500 out of 250000 steps  (21%)
[22:08:31] Writing local files
[22:08:31] Completed 55000 out of 250000 steps  (22%)
[22:08:31] Writing local files
[22:08:31] Completed 57500 out of 250000 steps  (23%)
[22:08:31] Writing local files
[22:08:31] Completed 60000 out of 250000 steps  (24%)
[22:08:31] Writing local files
[22:08:31] Completed 62500 out of 250000 steps  (25%)
[22:08:31] Writing local files
[22:08:31] Completed 65000 out of 250000 steps  (26%)
[22:08:31] Writing local files
[22:08:31] Completed 67500 out of 250000 steps  (27%)
[22:08:31] Writing local files
[22:08:31] Completed 70000 out of 250000 steps  (28%)
[22:08:31] Writing local files
[22:08:31] Completed 72500 out of 250000 steps  (29%)
[22:08:31] Writing local files
[22:08:31] Completed 75000 out of 250000 steps  (30%)
[22:08:31] Writing local files
[22:08:31] Completed 77500 out of 250000 steps  (31%)
[22:08:31] Writing local files
[22:08:31] Completed 80000 out of 250000 steps  (32%)
[22:08:31] Writing local files
[22:08:31] Completed 82500 out of 250000 steps  (33%)
[22:08:31] Writing local files
[22:08:31] Completed 85000 out of 250000 steps  (34%)
[22:08:31] Writing local files
[22:08:31] Completed 87500 out of 250000 steps  (35%)
[22:08:31] Writing local files
[22:08:31] Completed 90000 out of 250000 steps  (36%)
[22:08:31] Writing local files
[22:08:31] Completed 92500 out of 250000 steps  (37%)
[22:08:31] Writing local files
[22:08:31] Completed 95000 out of 250000 steps  (38%)
[22:08:31] Writing local files
[22:08:31] Completed 97500 out of 250000 steps  (39%)
[22:08:31] Writing local files
[22:08:31] Completed 100000 out of 250000 steps  (40%)
[22:08:31] Writing local files
[22:08:31] Completed 102500 out of 250000 steps  (41%)
[22:08:31] Writing local files
[22:08:31] Completed 105000 out of 250000 steps  (42%)
[22:08:31] Writing local files
[22:08:31] Completed 107500 out of 250000 steps  (43%)
[22:08:31] Writing local files
[22:08:31] Completed 110000 out of 250000 steps  (44%)
[22:08:31] Writing local files
[22:08:31] Completed 112500 out of 250000 steps  (45%)
[22:08:31] Writing local files
[22:08:31] Completed 115000 out of 250000 steps  (46%)
[22:08:31] Writing local files
[22:08:31] Completed 117500 out of 250000 steps  (47%)
[22:08:31] Writing local files
[22:08:31] Completed 120000 out of 250000 steps  (48%)
[22:08:31] Writing local files
[22:08:31] Completed 122500 out of 250000 steps  (49%)
[22:08:31] Writing local files
[22:08:31] Completed 125000 out of 250000 steps  (50%)
[22:08:56] CoreStatus = 75 (117)
[22:08:56] Error opening or reading from a file.
[22:08:56] Deleting current work unit & continuing...
[22:09:13] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[22:09:13] + Attempting to get work packet
[22:09:13] - Connecting to assignment server
[22:09:13] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.122.138).
[22:09:13] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[22:09:13] Loaded queue successfully.
[22:09:14] - Deadline time not received.
[22:09:15] - Error: Attempt #1  to get work failed, and no other work to do.
             Waiting before retry.
[22:09:24] + Attempting to get work packet
[22:09:24] - Connecting to assignment server
[22:09:25] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.122.138).
[22:09:25] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[22:09:25] Loaded queue successfully.
[22:09:27] - Deadline time not received.
[22:09:29] - Error: Attempt #2  to get work failed, and no other work to do.
             Waiting before retry.
[22:09:46] + Attempting to get work packet
[22:09:46] - Connecting to assignment server
[22:09:47] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.122.138).
[22:09:47] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[22:09:47] Loaded queue successfully.
[22:09:48] - Deadline time not received.
[22:09:49] - Error: Attempt #3  to get work failed, and no other work to do.
             Waiting before retry.
[22:10:20] + Attempting to get work packet
[22:10:20] - Connecting to assignment server
[22:10:21] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.122.138).
[22:10:21] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[22:10:21] Loaded queue successfully.
[22:10:22] - Deadline time not received.
[22:10:24] - Error: Attempt #4  to get work failed, and no other work to do.
             Waiting before retry.
[22:11:07] + Attempting to get work packet
[22:11:07] - Connecting to assignment server
[22:11:07] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.122.138).
[22:11:07] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[22:11:07] Loaded queue successfully.
[22:11:08] - Deadline time not received.
[22:11:10] - Error: Attempt #5  to get work failed, and no other work to do.
             Waiting before retry.
[22:12:34] + Attempting to get work packet
[22:12:34] - Connecting to assignment server
[22:12:35] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.122.138).
[22:12:35] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[22:12:36] Loaded queue successfully.
[22:12:36] - Deadline time not received.
[22:12:37] - Error: Attempt #6  to get work failed, and no other work to do.
             Waiting before retry.

There is the terminal output.
 
Hmmm, or there is something going on at Stanfords, or there is an error from your side. But it seems I gotten new WU today, so, I guess it your mac. Did you update something? Or open the FAHlog.txt file and maybe changed anything and then saved it? Because you haven't have a WU in progress now, I would delete the complete folding folder on your harddisk and install it again. Good luck, and happy folding!
 
Dreadnought said:
Hmmm, or there is something going on at Stanfords, or there is an error from your side. But it seems I gotten new WU today, so, I guess it your mac. Did you update something? Or open the FAHlog.txt file and maybe changed anything and then saved it? Because you haven't have a WU in progress now, I would delete the complete folding folder on your harddisk and install it again. Good luck, and happy folding!
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Apparently the FAHlog.txt file was given to root, and so it couldn't open that file as a user and it was making a new FAHlog2.txt file. I got it going..

BTW: Running this on a Linux machine, since my macs have OS 9.1 not X on them. If I had OS X on my macs I would have 4 machines here running Folding, right now I have two. Maybe I will do a Linux folding cluster :)
 
Hey everyone I just downloaded the .dmg of folding and tonight is my first experience folding so I have got the protein started but I have a couple of questions.

First off, I know that on the FAQ page it says that this program will not over heat your computer as long as it is properly cooled. However I am on a 2-yr old PB that is my main and only machine so with recent posts and threads talking about HD failure after a couple of years it gets me a little concerned. I assume however that this is not a HD intensive only processor intensive which I am more comfortable with but still I would like to know the realistic amount of wear and tear on which components of my machine.

Second according to my calculations the progress is 0.25 after 30 minutes of time. Wouldn't that mean this protein would take 200 hrs? (30x4=120mins(0.25x4=1%) 120x100=12000mins or 200hrs) My concern is not over the run time but over if this will even be useful data after 200hrs. I read somewhere that if the protein is not received in enough time then it can not be used and instead only the stats are added to the folding group which no offense doesn't mean as much to me as the scientific stand point.

Thirdly I understand that running the console uses more processor cycles and therefore isn't as efficient. With that being the case is running terminal the most efficient way?

And last which is least important and more of just a comment/observation, a dual-core or quad-core G5 must dominate these folding tasks. Anyone have any idea if those super computers around the world are doing these calculations? Like that one at Virginia - Tech?
 

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Another question I have been folding for a few days now and when i go to check my statistics my name doesn't show up. I do see a member called idmd, but my name in the folding console windows is idm. Also I don't think the dates are correct so I don't think this person is me. Anyone have any ideas about the questions above or my statistics question?
 
Dreadnought said:
Have you finished a WU already? No finished WU = No points = No stats.
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I have no idea. Here is the info when I go to My Statistics(which doesn't appear to reveal anything.

"<html>
<head>
<title>Folding@Home</title>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
<meta http-equiv="REFRESH" content="1; URL=http://folding.stanford.edu/stats.html">
</head>
<body>
<img src="../FAHlogoML.jpg" width="537" height="98" border="0">
<BR>
The Folding@Home stats pages have moved. The new link is
<A href=http://folding.stanford.edu/stats.html>
http://folding.stanford.edu/stats.html
</A>

<BR><BR>

You will automatically be transfered to the new url.
</body>
</html>"

Here is a picture of my console.
 

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I don't think so, you only have 15% complete of your first WU. Wait till this is finished, and then it can sometimes take a day before you come up in Stanfords states (normally this takes about an hour).
 
Dreadnought said:
I don't think so, you only have 15% complete of your first WU. Wait till this is finished, and then it can sometimes take a day before you come up in Stanfords states (normally this takes about an hour).
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Oh ok I didn't realize that percentage was only of one WU. I thought I had read somewhere that each protein had multiple work units so i wrongly assumed that 3 days of folding would have yielded one WU but I guess not. Thanks for the heads up. Got any input on my other questions??
 
I think the reason nobody answered your previous questions is because we have answered them a whole lot of times, you probably also will come accross these questions in this thread. All of your question are already answered, but you have to look in this forum for the answers! Sorry for this answer, but it's getting old having to answer these questions every couple of weeks. But for the last time:

iDM said:
First off, I know that on the FAQ page it says that this program will not over heat your computer as long as it is properly cooled. However I am on a 2-yr old PB that is my main and only machine so with recent posts and threads talking about HD failure after a couple of years it gets me a little concerned. I assume however that this is not a HD intensive only processor intensive which I am more comfortable with but still I would like to know the realistic amount of wear and tear on which components of my machine.
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It could make your PB very hot, and it's needs to cool down now and then. Shut it down for a night once in a while. Or use a cooling pad under it or raise it from one side so that air can flow under it. The hotter a machine gets, working for a long time on its maximum temparature, will wear it down faster. It's also HD intensive, it stores its results every 15 minutes (you can adjust this in your prefs), so your HD doesn't go into sleep mode.

iDM said:
Second according to my calculations the progress is 0.25 after 30 minutes of time. Wouldn't that mean this protein would take 200 hrs? (30x4=120mins(0.25x4=1%) 120x100=12000mins or 200hrs) My concern is not over the run time but over if this will even be useful data after 200hrs. I read somewhere that if the protein is not received in enough time then it can not be used and instead only the stats are added to the folding group which no offense doesn't mean as much to me as the scientific stand point.
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Stanford has a time frame when they want the results back, a lot of people start folding and get sick of it very fast. When a WU isn't finished in time, they give it to someone else and you probably don't get credit for it. The time you calculated could be correct. Your PB isn't as powerfull for this kind of work as my G5. It depends on the processor and WU how long the WU is going to take. A WU could also have 400 frames (400 pieces of a big WU) this is instead of percentage which you now have (100% is one whole simulated and finished WU!).

iDM said:
Thirdly I understand that running the console uses more processor cycles and therefore isn't as efficient. With that being the case is running terminal the most efficient way?
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Yes! It's more efficient, your processor doesn't need to help simulate a fancy picture.

iDM said:
And last which is least important and more of just a comment/observation, a dual-core or quad-core G5 must dominate these folding tasks. Anyone have any idea if those super computers around the world are doing these calculations? Like that one at Virginia - Tech?
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Virginia Tech probably doesn't do folding, they rent their computing power to others. But this could be, you can install folding on super clusters. But, every processor has to fold it's own WU because folding is setup like this. It uses its own outcome to simulate its next step. In a supercluster it would go parallel, every processor has a little chunk and other computers puts it together to one big thing.
 
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