MP All Models FAQ - Nvidia Web Drivers

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  1. flowrider, Feb 19, 2019
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    The old FAQ thread has been closed, though keeping a link here in case anyone still needs the information:

    https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...out-nvidia-pc-non-efi-graphics-cards.1440150/

    New FAQs will be added here.

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    NVIDIA Web Drivers

    The officially available NVIDIA Web Drivers for the multiple builds of High Sierra 10.13.6 as of April 2019.

    17G65: https://images.nvidia.com/mac/pkg/387/WebDriver-387.10.10.10.40.105.pkg
    17G3025: https://images.nvidia.com/mac/pkg/387/WebDriver-387.10.10.10.40.108.pkg
    17G4015: https://images.nvidia.com/mac/pkg/387/WebDriver-387.10.10.10.40.113.pkg
    17G5019 (CUDA 10.0/410.130): https://images.nvidia.com/mac/pkg/387/WebDriver-387.10.10.10.40.118.pkg
    17G5019 (CUDA 10.1/418.105): https://images.nvidia.com/mac/pkg/387/WebDriver-387.10.10.10.40.122.pkg
    17G6029 (CUDA 10.1/418.105): https://images.nvidia.com/mac/pkg/387/WebDriver-387.10.10.10.40.123.pkg
    17G6030 (CUDA 10.1/418.163): https://images.nvidia.com/mac/pkg/387/WebDriver-387.10.10.10.40.127.pkg
    17G7024 (CUDA 10.1/418.163): https://www.nvidia.com/content/Driv...-387.10.10.10.40.128.pkg&lang=us&type=GeForce

    NOTE: The two 17G5019 drivers in the 387.10.10.10.40.XXX series were issued for the CUDA build update (10.0>10.1).

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    NVIDIA Web Driver Compatibility

    Officially Compatible: GeForce GTX 680, GeForce GTX 285, GeForce GT 120, GeForce 8800 GT, Quadro K5000 for Mac, Quadro 4000 for Mac, Quadro FX 4800, Quadro FX 5600

    GPUs through Pascal are generally compatible with the 387.10.10.10.40.XXX series NVIDIA Web Drivers. This includes support up to the GTX 10XX series (GP104/GP102).

    The Turing GTX 16XX series (TU116) and RTX 20XX (TU102/TU104) series are NOT compatible with the currently released NVIDIA Web Drivers. See below for Volta support/note.

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    NOTE: NVIDIA is officially stating to uninstall the 387.10.10.15.15.108 driver and move to 387.10.10.10.40.122. Leaving this information and links for those who choose to use anyway. See post #17 below for release notes.

    NVIDIA Web Driver version 387.10.10.15.15.108 does not break with each macOS update (through High Sierra), but was pulled by NVIDIA and is no longer publicly available directly from NVIDIA's servers. The 387.10.10.15.15.108 driver included VOLTA support.

    387.10.10.15.15.108 has been posted below (See post #8):
    http://scriptsandbits.billybobbongo.com/nvidia/WebDriver-387.10.10.15.15.108.zip

    It is not 100% confirmed that 387.10.10.15.15.108 is functionally compatible with all features of CUDA 10.1/418.105. Driver appears to work with most basic CUDA acceleration applications. If your workflow depends on latest versions of CUDA, might be best to stick with the publicly released driver versions and would be first place to troubleshoot potential issues.

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    NVIDIA CUDA Drivers

    418.163:
    CUDA driver update to support CUDA Toolkit 10.1 Update 1 and macOS 10.13.6
    https://www.nvidia.com/object/macosx-cuda-418.163-driver.html

    418.105:
    CUDA driver update to support CUDA Toolkit 10.1 and macOS 10.13.6
    https://www.nvidia.com/object/macosx-cuda-418.105-driver.html
    http://us.download.nvidia.com/Mac/cuda_418/cudadriver_418.105_macos.dmg

    410.130:
    CUDA driver update to support CUDA Toolkit 10.0 and macOS 10.13.6
    https://www.nvidia.com/object/macosx-cuda-410.130-driver.html
    http://us.download.nvidia.com/Mac/cuda_410/cudadriver_410.130_macos.dmg

    Previous CUDA Driver versions are generally available here:
    https://www.nvidia.com/object/mac-driver-archive.html

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    This list should be helpful for future reference:
    https://gfe.nvidia.com/mac-update
     
  2. bsbeamer, Feb 19, 2019
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    (ALL INFORMATION MOVED TO FIRST POST IN THREAD / WIKI)
     
  3. Asgorath, Feb 19, 2019
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    To be clear, I've been thinking for a long time that we need a new FAQ thread. I don't use macOS anymore, and rarely actually check these forums. As a result, I haven't really been maintaining the FAQ thread very well, and the folks who are still using NVIDIA GPUs with macOS deserve better than that. Besides, so much of the information from the original FAQ list isn't particularly relevant or interesting today (i.e. nobody cares about Fermi or Kepler cards anymore).

    I apologize for not having a broader discussion about this before just requesting that my thread be closed, but I wholeheartedly support this thread taking its place.

    Edit: I reported your post to request that it be made sticky, and it looks like that has happened. I think you can change the post to be a wiki, which will allow you to go back and edit it as needed.
     
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    That such a well-documented legacy/repository of effort and knowledge has evaporated into the Æther is personally frustrating . . . that such a resource is no longer available for Future Travelers is, well, quite a shame (is not Convention for there to be a "This Thread is now Closed." type of 'Full Stop'?

    Nevertheless, thanks for initiating the dialogue, Asgorath; and thanks to those who have (and will) participate :)

    Regards, splifin "I'm on the RGB Team" gate
     
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    Right, the old thread isn't going anywhere, and can/should still be linked in the OP of this new thread. I just think it's time for a clean slate and a new thread owner, so thanks to flowrider for stepping up.
     
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    It is however available from those of us that grabbed it before it was pulled. I have it uploaded to a server (Direct Download) in case you want to include it in the FAQ.
     
  9. bsbeamer, Feb 20, 2019
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    Edited post #2 above to include the link. This thread is not a wiki and cannot be managed or added to.

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    UPDATE: First post is now a wiki and information has been moved there.
     
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  11. bsbeamer macrumors 68020

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    To 100% confirm, 387.10.10.15.15.108 cannot be installed in Mojave and gets the incompatible version notice. Someone asked about this in another thread. Quickly attempted during a Mojave 10.14.3 18D109 test with GTX 680 Mac Edition installed.
     
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  13. flowrider, Feb 27, 2019
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  16. bsbeamer, Feb 28, 2019
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    From these release notes, it looks like this is NVIDIA's official acknowledgment of issues with 387.10.10.15.15.108 and directing everyone to move to 387.10.10.10.40.122.

    https://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/144189/

    QUADRO & GEFORCE MACOS DRIVER RELEASE 387.10.10.10.40.122
    Version: 387.10.10.10.40.122
    Release Date: 2019.2.28
    Operating System: macOS High Sierra 10.13.6
    CUDA Toolkit: 10.1
    Language: English (US)
    File Size: 60.99 MB

    If you have the previously recalled 387.10.10.15.15.108 Web Driver installed, it is necessary that you uninstall that driver completely and replace it with this. See the Additional Information section for more details.

    IMPORTANT: This graphics driver update contains a security improvement in the NVIDIA Driver Manager preference panel via a new Developers Tab. If you have the previously recalled 387.10.10.15.15.108 Web Driver installed, it is necessary that you uninstall that driver completely and replace it with this.

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    This is what the new Developer panel states and defaults to upon 387.10.10.10.40.122 install:

    Screen Shot 2019-02-28 at 6.10.10 PM.png
     
  17. SimeoneSergio macrumors regular

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    First of all, thanks for keeping this kind of thread alive and full of informations for those who still are in the nVidia+HS limbo.

    So, the "418.105 Driver update is available" message popped out on HS as well, I don't understand what's the general suggestion here for HS users, update straight away through the "Install CUDA Update" in the CUDA preferences panel or are we suggested to uninstall current one before proceeding?
     
  18. h9826790 macrumors G5

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    Just update from the preference panel is fine.
     
  19. bsbeamer macrumors 68020

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    CUDA update 100% depends on which driver version you are using.

    If on driver version 387.10.10.10.40.122, you need to be using CUDA 418.105.
    If on driver version 387.10.10.10.40.118 -or- 387.10.10.15.15.108, you need to be using CUDA 410.130.

    Any combination outside of that can/will create issues with CUDA. See the installation notes posted above in #17.
     
  20. SimeoneSergio, Mar 7, 2019
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    Hi, thanks for the replies.

    Apparently, one thing I didn’t realise, is that I had an older web driver, like 355, so I went to upgrade it first with the 122, but now it gets stuck on the restart, bar stays at like 60%.

    I have to add there were no informations on how to uninstall the previous one, in the nvidia installer or elsewhere.

    Any ideas/suggestions to solve this?

    UPDATE: it doesn’t even let me start in safe mode :/
     
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    V355 doesn't sounds like web driver, which card and which OS you are talking about?
     
  22. bsbeamer macrumors 68020

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    355 is typically the default macOS/OSX driver. 355.11.10.10.40.102 is baked into macOS 10.13.6 17G5019 (and many previous versions) for NVDAGK100Hal and NVDAGF100Hal. This is a signal you're running the default macOS driver, NOT the NVIDIA Web Driver. CUDA will ONLY work with the NVIDIA Web Drivers on macOS.
     
  23. SimeoneSergio, Mar 7, 2019
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    Card: 750M
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    rMBP 15” late 2014

    Like I said, I was trying to upgrade to 122, and now I can’t arrive at the desktop.
    So, from I understand, I was trying to upgrade from the default web driver and now I am stuck, fantastic!
     
  24. bsbeamer macrumors 68020

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    https://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/144189/en-us

    Additional information tab >
    Detailed instructions for uninstalling the Web Driver are at the end of this document.


    If the Uninstaller button is not working directly from the NVIDIA Driver Manager, you can also open the Terminal app and type the following command:
    open /Library/PreferencePanes/NVIDIA\ Driver\ Manager.prefPane/Contents/MacOS/NVIDIA\ Web\ Driver\ Uninstaller.app/


    NOTE: If for any reason you are unable to boot your system to the Desktop and wish to restore your original macOS v10.13.6 (17G5019) driver, you can do so by clearing your Mac’s NVRAM.

    This may also reset some of the options you have selected in the NVIDIA Driver Manager. If you clear your Mac’s NVRAM, it is recommended that you open the NVIDIA Driver Manager and review your settings after your system has rebooted.

    STEP 1: Restart your Macintosh computer and simultaneously hold down the “Command” (apple) key, the “Option” key, the “P” key and the “R” key before the gray screen appears.

    STEP 2: Keep the keys held down until you hear the startup chime for the second time. Release the keys and allow the system to boot to the desktop.

    STEP 3: The original macOS v10.13.6 (17G5019) driver will be restored upon booting, although the NVIDIA Web Driver and NVIDIA Driver Manager will not be uninstalled from the system.
     
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