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Wouldn't really matter here in Germany anyway. They still do this nonsense and limiting the 5G speed, depending on your plan like 25 mbit or 50 mbit ist pretty mich still the norm. I could "upgrade" to 100 mbit speed for 3 bucks extra each month
This is almost certainly coming to the US soon.
 
I wonder how many people actually do stuff that needs this kind of speed.

I guess it can be useful if the iPhone is used as a hotspot...

For my phone usage i can't even tell a difference between 4G and 5G.

I would also prefer the C1X with improved battery life.

That is because there isn’t a speed difference between 4G and most of what carries label as 5G.

The fast speeds are in the c-band and mmWave spectrum and there isn’t any real consistency in how different carrier label this stuff.

Verizon calls the c-band and mmWave 5G UW, and you have to pay for a middle teir or higher “Unlimited” plan to access it.

That said, Verizon does have mmWave rollout nearly everywhere around here and my cellphone speeds are almost always between 1-1.5 Gbps.
 
Are you sure it's actually mmWave? The locations are exclusive and few and far between, and Verizon puts "UW" on it whether it's mmWave or mid-band (which truly is widespread and very fast on its own).

Lots of mmWave around here. Even the Target/Walmart/major grocery store parking lots around here have mmWave on Verizon. I get it in the parks, along the train lines and interstate, pretty much everywhere.

I know it is mmWave because I get speeds of 1.5 Gbps, whereas I think c-band tops out around 900 Mbps.

The only downside is you have to see these towers everywhere:


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mmWave is 5G "Unicorn". It's great for fixed devices with line of sight, but pretty much useless for phones. That's why the large US carriers have pretty much given up on it. C-band is where it's at. I can pull over 2Gbps down on TMB's C-band in some US cities.
 
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There's like one or two tiny sections with mmWave coverage within 50 miles of where I live and they're not even places I go to often.

When I went to Japan, their 4G/5G still worked very well despite being in their busy train stations. mmWave is not as important as some thinks.
 
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Outside of the U.S., the new iPhone models are limited to sub-6GHz 5G.

Well, sure. Because outside of the US, mmWave networks don’t really exist. There isn’t much point shipping a feature that can’t/wont be used in those countries.
 
I’d love to have it at home but unfortunately the closest one is slightly out of range. 🫠

I’m kind of shocked Apple hasn’t just dropped it on all their models. They dropped it from iPads, and now it’s gone from the Air too.

I’m gonna guess it’ll be gone next year when all the iPhones switch to Apple silicon modems.
 
Don't think anyone is going to miss it. Think when there is a version of the C series chip that supports mmWave and when Apple has that chip across all the models, there will be mmWave support for all the models sold across the world.
 
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I know it is mmWave because I get speeds of 1.5 Gbps, whereas I think c-band tops out around 900 Mbps.
mmWave on Verizon is typically 3-5Gbps. I've seen people show off C-band speed tests up as high as 2.6Gbps although I've personally only seen just over 2Gbps on my 16 Pro Max.

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mmWave for comparison (upload would have likely been better but we were driving so we left the tower range pretty quickly):

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mmWave on Verizon is typically 3-5Gbps. I've seen people show off C-band speed tests up as high as 2.6Gbps although I've personally only seen just over 2Gbps on my 16 Pro Max.



mmWave for comparison (upload would have likely been better but we were driving so we left the tower range pretty quickly):

Oh nice!

I guess I have been misinformed. That is really good to know!

Side: what is the upload speed still so slow?
 
What cutout ?
This massive ugly thing on the top of the phone…

I’m curious why it is needed on the 17 Pro, but there is no cutout like this on the 16 Pro?

I seem to recall the 13 Pro having it on the side, roughly where the current camera control is located. Maybe even the 15 Pro as well. So how did the 16 Pro manage without it, and why has it returned?

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Never saw mmWave 5G on AT&T, but it (mid-band) is almost common for me on Verizon.

iPhones bought outside the US also have mid-band accessibility. I got my 15 PM in the UK (and also got Verizon to whitelist it got esim use), and can connect to everything but the genuine mmwave (n258-261) no problem.
 
I’m curious why it is needed on the 17 Pro, but there is no cutout like this on the 16 Pro?

I seem to recall the 13 Pro having it on the side, roughly where the current camera control is located. Maybe even the 15 Pro as well. So how did the 16 Pro manage without it, and why has it returned?

After the 13 Pro they moved it to the back, I guess it was possible since the devices were fully glass on the back.
 
After the 13 Pro they moved it to the back, I guess it was possible since the devices were fully glass on the back.
Not true. I have a 15 Pro and the mmWave antenna glass is on the right side, just like the 14, 13, and 12 models. Perhaps on the 16 models, they somehow utilized the Camera Control cutout as a dual-purpose mmWave antenna, but couldn’t do that on the 17 models?
 
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