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I always enjoy reading these posts. People are extremely quick to defend Apple and their right to privacy, but if the situation involved the FBI trying to access a phone in order to get information regarding the death or wellbeing of one of their loved ones, I'm guessing their views would be quite different. To each their own.
It's to be expected. When one is directly affected by an incident you're personally involved. When you're not you can be a bit more objective and see things in a broader manner. That isn't somehow hypocritical, that's only human.
 
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Why do people consider hacking this guys phone a waste of money?
Because it was already known that their primary phone was destroyed by those people before they committed their terrorism. The other phone was left untouched because they likely didn’t use it for anything meaningful. It was also a failure of their employer as it was an employer phone. They didn’t install any management tools which would have prevented the need for Apple or the FBI to “go to war” on this.
 
The fact they didn’t get any information is really neither here nor there.
This is an absurd statement. If the process results in nothing gained, it’s a waste. Multiple times with this outcome then shows it’s idiotic to continue.

Not sure why you think government should be able to hack a criminal phone with no information on it. And before you say “well there could be!” do you think criminals are that stupid?
 
ios9, really? lol....
There are a lot of people with older phones still in use. The phones work just as well for those people now as when the phones were originally purchased.
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Not sure why you think government should be able to hack a criminal phone with no information on it. And before you say “well there could be!” do you think criminals are that stupid?
Prisons are full of criminals that are 'that stupid.' Many of those criminals have hurt a lot of people.
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Clear demonstration of the Government working against the interests of the People.
The government is made up of people, some of who may live down the street from you. They are idealistic and trying to make the country better and safer for its citizens. They are trying to work within the constraints of the existing laws and common morality without religious influence. They don't wake up at night with ideas of imposing their will and interests onto 'the People.'
The lobbyists that are in the pockets of big business executives (like Tim Cook) are the ones that you need to look out for. The lobbyists that walk into congressional offices with pre-written legislation that they order to be passed are the dangerous ones.
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Doesn’t matter what your political persuasion: governments always want to know what you’re doing and when.
Did you know that the CDC has a program that tracks the sales of pepto bismol down to the store location? They also track the sales of generic similar drugs. Did you know the reason they do that is so that they can discover if there is a food-borne illness in a particular area. They then use that information to find out if there is a common cause (like norovirus coming from a single restaurant chain). While the executives that run Chipotle are upset that such a surveillance program exists, i bet the victims of that food poisoning are happy.
 
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This is an absurd statement. If the process results in nothing gained, it’s a waste. Multiple times with this outcome then shows it’s idiotic to continue.

Not sure why you think government should be able to hack a criminal phone with no information on it. And before you say “well there could be!” do you think criminals are that stupid?

Yes yes I do. You make it sound like these types of people are criminal
masterminds.

Are you suggesting in the current climate intelligence hasn’t been gathered from personal electronic devices?
 
But old fashioned police didn’t have to deal with terror cells organised over the internet.

I think "old fashioned police work" was lost on you. I was referring to taking the initiative and following leads rather than expecting everything to be handed to them based on an iPhone data dump. The fact that we have an internet now is neither here nor there. Proactive police have been cracking terror cells in the modern internet era without having to hack people's smart phones. Again, good old fashioned investigative work is key.
 
I think "old fashioned police work" was lost on you. I was referring to taking the initiative and following leads rather than expecting everything to be handed to them based on an iPhone data dump. The fact that we have an internet now is neither here nor there. Proactive police have been cracking terror cells in the modern internet era without having to hack people's smart phones. Again, good old fashioned investigative work is key.

So PC plod is supposed to nip down to Syria to do some good old detective work?

It wasn’t lost on me but I think th modern world maybe on you.
 
Control iPhones not attack weapons. Make people safe from iPhone disasters.
 
If a liberal court says no, what would make anyone thing a conservative one would say otherwise?
Judges are under no obligation to toe an ideological line.

Sureme Court October Term 2016


JGR=Roberts
CT=Thomas
RBG=Ginsberg
SGB=Breyer
SAA=Alito
SMS=Sotomayor
EK=Kagan
NMG=Gorsuch


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one might assume that a modicum of ideological diversity can also be found on the lower courts, although perhaps the Supreme Cour'ts importance lends itself to horsetrading.
 
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