FCC Delays Vote on Proposal to Make Subscription TV Available on Any Set-Top Box via Apps

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    An FCC vote on a controversial proposal that would de-couple cable subscriptions from cable set-top boxes was today delayed as the Commission aims to work out "remaining technical and legal issues," the FCC said in a statement. [PDF]
    Introduced in January by United States Federal Communications Commission chairman Tom Wheeler, the proposal initially called for content providers to allow cable and satellite subscribers to access and watch cable content on any set-top box of their choosing, including the Apple TV, rather than being forced to lease a set-top box provided by cable companies like Comcast and Time Warner Cable.

    Cable companies want to have control over content and how and where it's displayed, so the FCC unsurprisingly met a lot of resistance over the proposal.

    Major changes to the measure were announced in early September in response to pushback from cable companies, and the revised version requires cable providers to develop apps featuring access to all of their programming -- live and on-demand -- for all major platforms including iOS, Android, Windows, and Roku.

    Providers are also required to provide open access to their content catalogs for universal search purposes, but the revised measure is much less ambitious and more restrictive than the original proposal, but more agreeable to content providers.

    With the first version of the proposal, companies like Apple could have built a full television-viewing interface around content provided by cable companies rather than simply offering content through a cable-branded app.

    According to the FCC, the proposal will now go on the Commissions "circulation list" and will "remain under consideration."

    Article Link: FCC Delays Vote on Proposal to Make Subscription TV Available on Any Set-Top Box via Apps
  2. sp3k0psv3t macrumors regular


    Jun 3, 2013
    Miami, FL
    This delay should have occurred last year.

    Wonder what is causing the hang up...

    The tech is advancing extremely slow for the possible feature set this is predicted to have.

    I guess more is better, but "right now" is best; otherwise we are waiting to buy for something better that is always "right around the corner."

    Put out what is ready now, and put out future tech as soon as it is ready; stop holding back versions that are ready today. I understand the logic I just don't think it's a good philosophy.

    But what do I know, lol, I don't own or run a multi-national billion dollar company haha.

  3. Phil in ocala Suspended

    Phil in ocala

    Jul 14, 2016
    "we have important Business interests we must listen to before the great unwashed...the customer....we will have an answer by 2018"
  4. dwsolberg macrumors 6502a

    Dec 17, 2003
    The vote that counts is the one made with our wallets. Drop cable, get an antenna, and pay Netflix, etc. for streaming.
  5. Eidorian, Sep 29, 2016
    Last edited: Sep 29, 2016

    Eidorian macrumors Penryn


    Mar 23, 2005
    I picked up a new Apple TV. While I liked the old one more, it was stuck on OS 7.2.1, a feature like this finally coming to my new Apple TV is going to make that regret go away.

    Sling comes close though.
  6. iSRS macrumors 6502


    Mar 2, 2010
    In other words, someone got paid.

    They need to also get around this crap "can't stream NFL games because the NFL says so" BS. These boxes need to be just another option, and the Internet just another alternative to OTA Antenna, Cable, and Satellite. If the local station is airing a game, the local station has an app that streams the content, and the user of said app, with paid subscription, is geographically in the local broadcast area? There is ZERO reason to prevent that person from watching the game live. ESPECIALLY since local games are often blacked out on the paid subscription apps.
  7. H2SO4 macrumors 601

    Nov 4, 2008
    The goalposts will just move. The unwanted stuff will now become part of the individual channel you bought to escape it. The prices of those individual channels will just rise to compensate.
  8. iSRS macrumors 6502


    Mar 2, 2010
    Nope, that, too, is an election year. Maybe 2019.
  9. ladycsr macrumors member

    Jul 7, 2015
    The FCC should leave it up to each individual how they want their channels delivered to them.
  10. wxman2003 Suspended

    Apr 12, 2011
    Most people are still going to want a stb, as streaming through an ATV or Roku may not be that good, if you have slow internet speed. Even with a fast speed, the quality will not be as good.
  11. 69Mustang macrumors 604


    Jan 7, 2014
    In between a rock and a hard place
    I'm not one, and most likely will never be one, but how does this help cord cutters? I see no real advantage to this scenario. Still have a subscription. Just apps instead of channels. How is that better? @Cuban Missles you're a cord cutter. Does this make you any happier?
  12. masterhiggins macrumors regular

    Nov 30, 2003
    A la carte would be preferable. I don't 6 espns and mtv
  13. ke-iron macrumors 65816

    Aug 14, 2014
  14. coolfactor macrumors 68040

    Jul 29, 2002
    Vancouver, BC CANADA
    Cable TV and "packages of channels" is a dinosaur that needs to die.
    --- Post Merged, Sep 29, 2016 ---
    Because you can subscribe to *only* those apps that you want/need, not a bundle of "channels" that may never watch. The industry is corrupt is that sense... you need to subscribe to a bundle to get that one channel that you want. Serving the industry, not the customer.
  15. Waxhead138 macrumors 6502

    May 18, 2012
    I'm not a cord cutter mainly because we are already moving to a model that ditches traditional packaging in favor of more flexible ones....but the game is already becoming one that you'll have to subscribe to, idk, too many streaming services to get everything you may like...aka the same amount if not more goes out the door monthly. However:

    One benefit: cable companies already make money hand over fist....it's insulting to make someone rent equipment on top of charging a premium, and quite often under contract at that. To me the benefit is quite simply drawing a line, stopping the gouging at some point. Letting them know they can't just do everything they want. To me it's a matter of principle. It also adds some flexibility by letting the customer pick their own equipment.

    Lastly....I think someone really did get paid to hold this up. Tom Wheeler has typically not been one to back down from a fight. I think a lobbied senator(s) tapped him on the shoulder and said..."Let this one go for now Tom." Probably with a certain inflection. Just one opinion.
  16. kemal macrumors 65816


    Dec 21, 2001
  17. Waxhead138 macrumors 6502

    May 18, 2012
    And if this vote passed, you still would. It's a not a cure all.
    --- Post Merged, Sep 29, 2016 ---
    If PS Vue had MASN sports, that would have been my move months ago. It was the only channel missing that stopped me from making that move.
  18. Phil in ocala Suspended

    Phil in ocala

    Jul 14, 2016
    I have direct.TV..most of the channels are: shopping, pay per view...movie subcription etc.....Mostly all I get for over $100 a month is: CNN, MSBBC, E!, TVG and FauxNews.....yes they are making big money....but they have lobbyists in DC that keep everything the same. Expect nothing for you and all for them...that is the way the politics of the FCC, FTC, FEC are played.
  19. wxman2003 Suspended

    Apr 12, 2011
    It's pretty clear what's going to happen. if the FCC decides to allow one to get their cable or satellite content via ATV, Roku, etc, the providers will just raise the monthly subscription to cover the loss of money collected from leased boxes. What they will do, is sell you their boxes, instead of leasing.
  20. lsutigerfan1976 macrumors 68020

    Sep 14, 2012
    Translation: my pockets need to be greased some more. And then you get what you want...
  21. dennysanders macrumors 6502


    Nov 6, 2015
    Really? maybe it's just my imagination but i feel like when i stream a show from Netflix or Hulu, it's a better quality than through my directv service.
  22. Phil in ocala Suspended

    Phil in ocala

    Jul 14, 2016
    I think they will decide to do a lot of nothing...period.
  23. Saipher macrumors demi-god


    Oct 25, 2014
    This is so very disappointing. Cable providers will probably release the lamest, most limited apps for their service since they will have very little incentive to provide a good experince to non set-top boxes. In their mind "If you want a better experience, get our cable box".
  24. iamgalt macrumors regular


    Jul 25, 2012
    "remaining technical and legal issues,"

    Which means, we're going to give the cable companies more time to pay us off some more before we present an extremely watered down version of the bill to be voted on.

    This is the result of government intervention in anything: huge delays, high expense to present the bill (let alone pass it), and the resulting bill/law does nothing to change anything except raise the consumers bill.
  25. medazinol macrumors regular


    Jul 17, 2002
    "Our corporate overlords have lobbied us to delay a decision until they can milk as much money from the populace as possible using an outdated business model. Please continue paying your astronomical TV subscription service fees until they exhaust all appeals and their lawyers buy their private islands. Thank-you."

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