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FCC Pointing to iPad as Harbinger of Increased Wireless Spectrum Needs
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BS.
The wired.com survey for the 3G iphones have shown that AT&T 3G network was the third fastest in the whole world. The world hears how bad AT&T's network is --- but that's in comparison to Verizon, the king of the networks.
The wired side --- US is 4 years ahead of Europe in terms of FTTH deployments.
http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=172028
Out of curiosity, why do you put "sucked" in the past tense?
I thought they were dead or just some sort of website of no import these days.
The only use I've had for anything AOL in the last 4 years is the convenience of an AOL IM account for use in iChat... I would never consider using their software for anything due to its parasitic tendencies.
I think the fear is that the iPad will sell like gangbuster hotcakes.
I agree, releasing the technologies now will push the companies to improve themselves, because it's the customers who'll be demanding it, not the networks.
Also, average bandwidth speed in US is around 1-3Mbps, which is pathetic as hell, especially when we're talking about one of the most advanced societies on the planet and yet, majority of smaller societies like Japan, S. Korea, Sweden can get 100+Mbps to all their customers. I can understand that it's easier to do it in a small country in terms of land size but it's not an excuse for the USA to be so behind.
There should be a mandate plan by the Congress to push for fiber connections to every home in the country, the same fiber connections can be used for everything meaning TV, phone, and the internet. So much benefits just by having fiber for every home. Technologies right now are pushing fiber to be even more flexible, much more faster, and less maintenance required. One of them is flexible fiber, which allows companies to bend fiber to fit multi-node buildings easily as well other construction issues.
Why am I talking about fiber? Because the wireless networks need much much larger and faster backbones in order to accommodate the ever increasing numbers of devices per subscriber. AT&T is just starting to add fibre backbone to the 3G networks in order to improve it.
if we can put a man on the moon we can have a stable 3g ATT netowork. But like the most recent attempt to go back to the moon it is all about budget and how much cash there realy is and how much you want to spend on it. The US gov stopped the moon missions casue it was going to cost to much for them. However ATT is worried about profits. This is the issue profit is king and as long as the profits are strong and there is no min quality of service requirements they can get away with over selling there network just like AOL did when dial up was coming online. This is not a new issue it is all about how much do you spend to roll out network per registered handset.
Yes, I agree with you 100% because Japan/Korea are totally dominate in the area of broadband and this article sums up the overall findings:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/tec...th-the-fastest-broadband-internet-speeds.html
BTW, I had the chance to experience the broadband in Japan and I must say that it's amazing.
backhaul
To me it would seem to be more of an issue that ATT doesn't have enough backhaul from the towers to transport the data. I can't tell you how many times I have full 3g bars and data doesn't move past a crawl.
To me it would seem to be more of an issue that ATT doesn't have enough backhaul from the towers to transport the data. I can't tell you how many times I have full 3g bars and data doesn't move past a crawl.
Simple. Just open the taps a little bit for greater bandwidth. No more bottle-necking. Problem solved.
As if I care if AT&T's puny network is crushed by the iPad/iPhone tsunami. At this point, there are two choices.
1. Let Verizon and Sprint play to spread out the network load or
2. Cry more.
Choose, but choose wisely.
Her Majesty's Cyber Squad.
At this point, there are two choices.1. Let Verizon and Sprint play to spread out the network load or
2. Cry more.
Choose, but choose wisely.
What would they call it in Britain?
Her Majesty's Cyber Squad.
Although that may be true, I for one, will be one of the exceptions to your rule. Sure, I know that 85-90% of my iPad's data usage will happen over wifi in my home but I still plan on getting one with 3G for travel purposes - mainly. That way if and when I need it, I'm covered.
Right now, my yardstick is that I average around 200MB of data/month on my 3GS. That's probably not a lot of data for most folks on this forum - I would assume, but it's pretty good for me. For the iPad, SJ said ....for $14.99 at 250MB of data, most people will get by on that...Puh-leez.....in my case, 250MB will be a data smorgasbord when I'm away travelling! Even more, no-contract, purchase and cancel anytime (from the iPad itself).........I'm sold
Japan --- high population density, government is the largest shareholder of the landline monopoly.
Korea --- high population density
Hong Kong --- ultra high population density.
Then MOST of the top 10 countries consist of scandinavian and nordic countryies --- ultra high population density. A carrier wiring fiber optics network in a mid-size city (Copenhagen with 1.8 million population), they wired 1/3 of the country (Denmark has 5.5 million population). Sweden is like that. Finland is like that. Iceland is like that.
Lies, damned lies and statistics.
My country --- Canada --- has always fluctuate wildly in these indexes. Canada has high population density (most of us live within 2 hour drive from the US border). You wire the greater Toronto area --- that's 1/6 of Canada's population. You wire the next 2 largest cities (Montreal and Vancouver) --- that's 1/3 of Canada's population. You wire the next 2 largest cities (Ottawa and Calgary) --- that's 45% of Canada's population. One year, Canada would be at the bottom of the list. Next year, Canada would jump 10 places because Rogers deployed docsis 3.0 in Toronto. Entirely meaningless statistic.
The same kind of fiber network where the US is 4 year ahead of Europe.
http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=172028
I have a hunch AT & T are further along then most people think. They need Apple to get them to the next level and Apple knows their plans. This could also be the reason the iPad is delayed so that AT&T can get their networks primed for the release. This also may be a clue as to why AT&T is still the exclusive provider for the iPhone in the US.
Jesus!! What are you doing for christs sake? I don't upload that much from my home connection over a month!!
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I agree with you, statistics aren't facts. I'm wrong to use that as facts. What I meant was, regardless of the rest of the World, USA should be mandated to have fibre to every home in order to push progress as well as overhauling the power grid to next generation, but i disgress, it's a different story for another time.
It doesn't really mean anything. We can just easily say that Japan is at least a decade ahead of US due to its high (50Mbps+) speed network available to everybody with low prices as well as 4G network with 100Mbps/20Mbps.
Update: Saw this link, don't know how much we can trust the data due to the company that did the study. http://www.ftthcouncil.org/en/newsr...lion-homes-as-north-american-ftth-deployment-
IMHO Wireless is so much faster than 3G why wouldn't someone use it.
Also if your wifi is turned on the iDevices default to it since it is the fastest.
How do so many of you miss the point. Don't bother fixing anything before it's broken or some of you wouldn't have anything to bitch about. They are not saying that the ipad is going to over strain the networks but they have noticed a trend towards many more network intensive devices. Add the capacity now before it's too big a problem.
You can use decade or years and fast or high but you don't need both.
You can use decade or years and fast or high but you don't need both.
LMAO, I didn't even see that one, good catch. That was just a bad one. I have a habit of typing fast with my hands without thinking first and sometime I skim my posts to make sure it at least make sense but I totally missed that one.
I do it all the time. I lose track of where I am typing to where I was thinking. I just had to do it because it looked so much like mine pre-proofreading.
At $300 BILLION, who is going to pay for it?
The largest shareholder for NTT is the Japanese government. You might as well ask the US government to re-create Ma Bell and then nationalize it.