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I have the same setup. It's empowering owning my equipment. I think before TiVo (years ago mind you) I was paying something like $21 a month per box for HDDVR service... that's $504 per year for antiquated technology. Shameful. So I got the TiVo and yeah, dealing with Comcast to get everything paired the first time is annoying, but quite simple once you get someone on the line that knows what they're doing.

My gripe with Comcast is I have the Tripple Play. Every 6 months I have to call in because my bill will go from $130 to $180 because "the promotion expired" and I have to threaten to leave then have them dial it back.... and the bill goes back down but usually $5 more per month... then the next six months, repeat.

I have phone\cable\internet... I don't WANT phone, but they say if I cancel my phone line my bill will go up $10... which made sense back in the day when it was pay per use calling, but there's no logic to it today.

I'm at the point now where I don't like the idea of ditching my cable TV and going to just internet, because then I'd have to download and\or stream my shows, which the cable company also is Comcast NBC Universal so they control the TV shows I like too. Makes me insane!
Buy an HD Antenna and you'll get all the local channels for free and in better quality than cable too ( https://www.tablotv.com/tools/ ).
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Just give me channels that i want.
Amc, discovery, history, natgeo, fox, nbc, and other channels that i cant recall. I have dish and i only watch about 5 channels regularly. No need for the other 150 or so.
You can get fox, nba and the other local "broadcast" channels for free with over the air antennas (in better quality than cable too) so you are really only paying for cable channels such as AMC, History, Natgeo.

You could even purchase AMC, History channel and Discovery through SlingTV for 20 a month.
 
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I'm pretty sure OTA isn't available for everyone. I live 60 (hilly) miles away from the locals I'd be trying to get. I went to one of the web sites to see if you'd be able to get OTA's with an antenna, and it read that I wouldn't be able to get them.
 
So if I own one iPhone I should be able to install iOS on any other phone I want? If someone provides a service they should control how it's provided.
 
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Cable companies argue it would give technology companies unfair access to customer data and potentially disrupt deals that have been established for channel positioning, giving some programmers better spots in the lineup for higher payments.

Going to emphasize this a bit and focus on the bolded area of the quote. First off, Cable companies have severely monopolized television broadcasts and the costs involved. These companies are now in multi-billion dollar deals to acquire stuff over the other. The concept behind exclusive content resided first with Cable companies. To this day, Folks in the L.A. area can't even see a damn Dodgers game unless they have TWC due to their TV deal.

It's a matter of time before all of these broadcast companies do their own thing and charge for their service because that's where this is all leading. If your company can broadcast damn good shows, it will bank without having to pay extra fees to the Cable companies. HBO is proving that with HBO Now which is the same price to get as it is with any Cable provider (providing you don't sign a deal that gives you HBO free for a period). Netflix is starting to have better programming options than anything on network TV.

Outside of Live sports, what do I need from the cable companies? And Sling is working hard to get more sports programs, so if they succeed, i'm jumping on board Sling.

As far as the FCC goes, this is a good idea! More set tops will have internet content and More internet devices will have network content. And more importantly, this would open up a lot of jobs.
 
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If we could only have this in the UK :(
I don't think it's much of a problem here in the UK. In the USA a lot of cable companies place a set top box charge on top of your bill. Here that doesn't happen, with Sky once you have been with them for a year the box is yours, if it breaks it is down to you to pay for a new one, or you could take out their insurance. With Virgin Media you never own the box (stop subscribing and VM will take it away) and if anything goes wrong VM will fix it free of charge.

Of course these proposals fix nothing, I see nothing that would suggest that the cable companies in the USA have to stop charging customers for the boxes, it only suggests that they have to let set top box manufacters the ability to show cable content.
 
I don't think it's much of a problem here in the UK. In the USA a lot of cable companies place a set top box charge on top of your bill. Here that doesn't happen, with Sky once you have been with them for a year the box is yours, if it breaks it is down to you to pay for a new one, or you could take out their insurance. With Virgin Media you never own the box (stop subscribing and VM will take it away) and if anything goes wrong VM will fix it free of charge.

Of course these proposals fix nothing, I see nothing that would suggest that the cable companies in the USA have to stop charging customers for the boxes, it only suggests that they have to let set top box manufacters the ability to show cable content.

I didn't know that about VM, interesting. What stance do BT take with their box?
Still wish we could get things easily like HBO Go in the UK.
 
If they wind up allowing this, it should include language that forces STB's that want to participate (like Apple TV), must implement the FULL cable interface (even if through a programming interface), which would allow the cable companies to maintain control of what and how they offer the content and give the STB's a way to also provide other methods of content accessing (Hulu, Netflix, Network Apps, etc)...

Essentially, this would allow the cable companies to keep providing DVR services, On-Demand services, etc. and also allow for the full LIVE TV features.

They just won't have a monopoly on it, that's all. They can do what they want. I want to get nothing but Internet from them. I also think that Broadcast gets interesting with ATSC 3.0, which will be able to deliver 4K over the air, and streaming data IN SYNC with broadcast. So, things like the baseball stats as you watch the game, interactive queries, etc. And subtitles in any language you choose. Bye-bye stupid cable. Maybe they'll be able to specialize in ethnic broadcasts and community programming. Like they used to be.
 
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The FCC should just stream broadcast networks on the Internet, with whatever national ads would normally run stuck in (in the same stream). Our tax dollars have supported the development and continued existence of broadcast television AND the Internet, and it's ridiculous that, while we are entitled to buy a TV that can freely access that broadcasted content, we are blocked from using a computer or box to view that same damn content.
 
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The government allowed these mega cable company mergers. ... Then when the monopolistic mergers go through, the FCC who approved the merger to begin with all of a sudden is interested in introducing regulation to fight what they themselves approved.
Remember that this tug of war happens through different administrations with different agendas. Laws like those are made and repealed based on politics, not always with the people's best interests in mind.

The FCC's current attempt at giving the people more choice is long overdue. But whether it succeeds or fails is sort of a moot point; the FCC is still leaving the monopolies in place. And now with Comcast moving to a pay-per-megabyte business model for their Internet service, it really won't matter how many individual TV apps you can get on a connected device; Comcast (which often is also the only choice for high-speed Internet) can make Internet-based television prohibitively expensive to use, driving customers back to their tightly controlled cable packages.
 
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Waah, waah, waah. If cable companies didn't price gouge, strong-arm, and bully their customers, and actually provided great services, then it wouldn't have to come to this.

I also find it hilarious that they are calling this plan "unfair" when they themselves are being unfair when it comes to net neutrality, price hikes, lobbying and eliminating competition.

Bring it, FCC.

YES.
Last line says, "at least for cable subscribers" and that's who the FCC works for.

I also find it hilarious that none of the cable companies complaints had anything to with their subscribers; That's why I'm a cord cutter.
 
AppleTV is just too weak - there has to be an explanation?

We have "free cable" at my complex. Only to access that "free cable", I have to pay $3/mo for a stupid little Cisco box.

And that stupid little box has its own remote control - so I can't just use my TV remote.

So that's just annoying - but when the NCAA sold out to ESPN, oh well...

I know Apple is an extremely poor company. But, while I know they're very busy pumping everything into iCars and "s" versions of their phones that people are finally realizing aren't worth the investment -

Why can't Apple do whatever Sling has done? But Apple is just so ridiculously wealthy, no reason whatsoever for them to break into gaming, what with Microsoft and Sony doing pretty much everything possible to p--- away their "hold" with bizarre subscription fees and network requirements for networks that seem to go down all the time?

Meanwhile, you can currently just go out and buy a cheap Acer Chromebook, hit up the PirateBay, install TorrentStream - and wow...

Only live sporting events are still (as far as I know) very difficult to acquire - the last time I fired up XBMC and SportsDevil, everything was shuttered. Which led me to paying my $3/mo for my stupid little cable box to watch the college bowl games.

But hey - they're too busy tossing "s" on things and making cars to "amaze" themselves?

Is AppleTV just the running gag at Cupertino? "Hey, how could we possibly make a worse effort? Oh yeah, that's completely moronic - let's do that!"

I don't get it.
 
Two years ago swapped Comcast boxes for Tivo. Best decision ever!

This year swapped Tivo box for one with Over the Air Antenna support and ditched Comcast Cable TV completely! Oh so satisfying.

Now I just need to figure out how to ditch Comcast completely, still have them for Internet. Gosh, I hope Verizon, ATT, or Google Fiber comes to my neighborhood soon!
[doublepost=1453945963][/doublepost]Cablecards are indeed a pain and antiquated. Getting them to pair with your device can be a real nightmare.

All's we need from FCC are laws to allow simple software cable authorization to allow any manufacturer to sell a cable compatible box without the need for cablecard.
 
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AppleTV is just too weak - there has to be an explanation?

We have "free cable" at my complex. Only to access that "free cable", I have to pay $3/mo for a stupid little Cisco box.

And that stupid little box has its own remote control - so I can't just use my TV remote.

So that's just annoying - but when the NCAA sold out to ESPN, oh well...

I know Apple is an extremely poor company. But, while I know they're very busy pumping everything into iCars and "s" versions of their phones that people are finally realizing aren't worth the investment -

Why can't Apple do whatever Sling has done? But Apple is just so ridiculously wealthy, no reason whatsoever for them to break into gaming, what with Microsoft and Sony doing pretty much everything possible to p--- away their "hold" with bizarre subscription fees and network requirements for networks that seem to go down all the time?

Meanwhile, you can currently just go out and buy a cheap Acer Chromebook, hit up the PirateBay, install TorrentStream - and wow...

Only live sporting events are still (as far as I know) very difficult to acquire - the last time I fired up XBMC and SportsDevil, everything was shuttered. Which led me to paying my $3/mo for my stupid little cable box to watch the college bowl games.

But hey - they're too busy tossing "s" on things and making cars to "amaze" themselves?

Is AppleTV just the running gag at Cupertino? "Hey, how could we possibly make a worse effort? Oh yeah, that's completely moronic - let's do that!"

I don't get it.

Sling is Dish's stepchild. Same overly expensive nonsense.
 
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This proposal means nothing. Its too expensive to integrate every single type of interface to all broadcast systems. These OTT companies are trying to kill broadcast so why would they even spend the capital investment to build in such functionality. That's like an iPod having an FM tuner built into it.

If it even gains traction, OTT STBs will skyrocket in price and no one will pay for it. I used to have a Tivo with cablecard and had a hell of a time trying to get it to work.
 
I don't like this. I hope it doesn't force Apple or Roku to have cable interfaces just because they are considered set top boxes.
 
After cable companies required to let go control of cable internet modem, I was able to buy my own. The cost of modem paid off in less than year of the rent of modem from TWC. Same needs to be done for the STB. You buy any compatible STB and activate it.
 
no.

If it wasn't for the FCC, AT&T would still be throttling people that used more than 5GB of data a month.

Right, so now that ATT lost that battle against a minority of data abusers, they are effectively cancelling everyone's unlimited plan. Yup. Three cheers for FCC meddling. They sure helped out there
 
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