How is the GOP proposal to allow daily calls from bill collectors ever going to work if the robocallers have the lines tied up?
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FCC Proposes 'New Powers' for Mobile Carriers in Effort to Combat Robocalls
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Can easily white list certain phone numbers to go thru but by default it should be off.
Let's not turn this into a political thing.
The core of what Ajit Pai is proposing, that carriers should make call block by default, is a sound one. It's just not strong enough. What I think FCC should do, with specific deadline:
The core of what Ajit Pai is proposing, that carriers should make call block by default, is a sound one. It's just not strong enough. What I think FCC should do, with specific deadline:
- Carriers operating in the US (wireless, landline, and VoIP) must implement STIR/SHAKEN and turn on robocall block by default
- All phones must implement STIR/SHAKEN, identifying verified numbers as well as whitelisting them against call blocking apps
- A bounty program replaces FCC Do Not Call registry: % of fines from fradulent or robocaller using a verified number will be distributed to those that have reported it
The authentication is key. Otherwise many innocent people will be blacklisted, and probably already are by some services. The problem is these robocallers can just use any old phone number. The system is so old and broken that you can just spoof anything. If they can just close that loophole, then that will solve much of this issue. Why? Because the spammers would be required to use their real number, and their carrier would shut them off when they're reported. If everything is tied to your real-life business or person, then you're suddenly responsible for your actions again, and can be fined and shut down.
I use Nomorobo and it works pretty well. I bought a subscription for my grandma as well. I also use WideProtect to prevent neighbor attacks, which are when you get a bunch of calls from a number similar to your own. I live in a different area code now but have my same old number, so I rarely get legit calls that are similar to my own. So for privacy let's say my phone number is 555-660-4400. In WideProtect I can enter 555-660 and it will block anything 555-660-XXXX, which is the neighbor attack. It also has an option to allow any number within that range that is in your contacts, which is useful. For me Nomorobo is worth the $19.99/yr subscription to not be annoyed, but it would be even better if they can shut this whole racket down completely on a hardware level with laws to back it up.
I use Nomorobo and it works pretty well. I bought a subscription for my grandma as well. I also use WideProtect to prevent neighbor attacks, which are when you get a bunch of calls from a number similar to your own. I live in a different area code now but have my same old number, so I rarely get legit calls that are similar to my own. So for privacy let's say my phone number is 555-660-4400. In WideProtect I can enter 555-660 and it will block anything 555-660-XXXX, which is the neighbor attack. It also has an option to allow any number within that range that is in your contacts, which is useful. For me Nomorobo is worth the $19.99/yr subscription to not be annoyed, but it would be even better if they can shut this whole racket down completely on a hardware level with laws to back it up.
Since the Empire are the good guys it turned out great until those religious fanatics murdered all those people and brought complete chaos.
As soon as you connect to a cell tower the call is converted to SIP. You have no clue on how anything on the PSTN works.
yes, but it's not he same as your typical VOIP setup from a computer/phone app...
like my post said, the iPhones already differentiate the two types of incoming calls.
Nope. Happens here in Canada too. CRTC: take note. (I’m getting damned tired of being being told I’ve won a free flight/need to call the tax people before I get arrested/(some Chinese message I’ve never been able to parse - sounded urgent though)
I am all for anything that helps. It has gotten better lately for some reason, but I welcome efforts to stamp out this practice permanently.
No, Pai, that’s not why carriers didn’t implement a solution yet. They didn’t because no one forced them to. It’s an expense. They WANT the call volume to maintain their service numbers for board meetings and PR. They don’t want to spend money developing anything. Why do you think they want to kill off fiber landlines, which are more reliable and have greater service potential than the stupid unsustainable “wireless everything” fantasy?? It’s all about profit, not customer satisfaction. These companies care only about selling contracts.
That’s what I’ve done and I don’t get many anymore. If a number calls that I don’t know I never answer. If they leave a message and it’s legit I do follow up. If they don’t leave a message or it’s not a legit message the number gets blocked. I haven’t had a robo call in a month.
It’s disappointing how little Apple has done to help. And the phone carriers.
Why aren’t spam-blocking tools included in iOS? Basic features like only allowing calls from those on your ‘favorites’ list, or blocking all numbers with a certain prefix. Apple has no excuse for not including such features.
And the miserable phone companies... it’s true that most offer basic apps with some functionality to address these concerns, but for anything useful they charge $3-4/month. It’s unacceptable for them to take advantage of their customers like that.
Why aren’t spam-blocking tools included in iOS? Basic features like only allowing calls from those on your ‘favorites’ list, or blocking all numbers with a certain prefix. Apple has no excuse for not including such features.
And the miserable phone companies... it’s true that most offer basic apps with some functionality to address these concerns, but for anything useful they charge $3-4/month. It’s unacceptable for them to take advantage of their customers like that.
I know. Right?
It’s not like the net neutrality policies he axed were in any way benevolent to consumers, but it had a feel good title that people could really get behind.
And I didn’t need to actually read or understand any of the policies, because just saying ‘net neutrality’ made me feel better about myself, which then gets reinforced by cheesy corporate tv comedians. There’s just no cause more noble than this.
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I think it's interesting that a lot of the comments on this post are bashing Ajit Pai instead of acknowledging what he's trying to do for us. Get over you hate! Net neutrality was bad. If you disagree with me, that's fine, but keep the hate to yourself.