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hmmm.. I have mixed feelings, I normally fly 1st class on all my flights anyway so I always have a nice amount of space to cancel out everyone

In my opinion... you & others that paid quite a bit extra to enjoy 1st class should be the LAST ones inundated by d-bags chatting on their phones.
 
I fly on average of 20+ flights a year and please no talking!

We business travelers want it quiet

And shut your baby up.

You're a terrible parent by letting it cry

Some people think they're so smart.

We should shut you up for making such stupid comments. Obviously you know nothing about parenting.

But to be fair I was once ignorant like you before I had kids and then I realised what really went on behind the scenes and emphasised with parents and their crying kids -- after all that's the only way babies can communicate before they can talk.

Now when I see an idiot parent trying to shush their baby by shaking/hitting/shouting at it, I shake my head in disgust.

That'll probably be you I'll be shaking my head at someday.
 
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On a bus or in a public place I can choose to move away from an annoying blab, but on a plane you are tied to a seat. Hence you become their captive audience. "In flight" calls allowed = just one more way to be tortured by blabber mouths…NO THANX!!!!:eek:
 
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"We believe USDOT's role, as part of our Aviation Consumer Protection Authority, is to determine if allowing these calls is fair to consumers"

What does a government bureaucrat know about "fair"? Why not let airlines and their customers determine what is "fair" for them?
 
I agree EXCEPT that someone with authority must make 100% certain that phones in a flight will not be a safety risk. And I doubt this is true since it would make compliance during an emergency less reliable.
100% certainty is never achieved. If you insist on 100% certainty on airplanes, then you will not fly. Period.

In an emergency when every passenger should be complying, the femtocell can be turned off. You still won't get full compliance, but you'll get what you get, which is what you get now.
 
Calls no problem but the ability to at least text would be great. It's always nice to be able to talk to someone before you land just to make sure everything is in order and to communicate with loved ones on a flight across the Pacific wouldn't hurt! Text is harmless.
 
Serious question: Are you also supportive of banning cell phone use on other modes of transportation, such as buses, subways, trains, ferries, and shared taxis? Why or why not?

I think people are responding to the thought of being trapped on an airplane in an annoying or unpleasant environment, which is a lot different than being able to get off at the next bus stop, or simply moving to another train car should one need to escape obnoxious *******s.
 
I'm one of those guys who flies frequently (well over a million miles). To me, the most agonizing part of any flight is the period between the moment I board the plane and the moment the last jerk is forced to turn off his cell phone just before takeoff (and the corresponding period at the end of the flight, where the same jerks turn on their phone the nanosecond before the wheels hit the runway to announce to all their friends "I've just landed").

The self-important jabbering about *very important* business deals, or the price of widgets in Paraguay, all loaded with the latest business buzzwords, is just about the most irritating thing I can imagine. To think that I might have to put up with that (even periodically) on a 14-hour flight to Tokyo is just beyond the pale.

Surf the Internet and text all you want but PLEASE, no mobile phone calls!

PS - Noise canceling headphones make speech *more* intelligible by canceling out low, repetitive noise (like plane engines). They do nothing to block human speech :(
 
What I meant was.... you are one of the obnoxious ranting people (as demonstrated by your looooooooooooong & plodding posts) that NOBODY wants to hear on a phone... on a plane, where they cannot escape from you.
You are advocating talking on cell phone on a crowded plane for the same reason I'm against it- you belong to a group that will go on and on and on, not caring if you're annoying others, while I'm part of the group that would prefer as much peace and quiet on my flight as possible & I'm pleased to offer it to others as well.

You're part of a group that would prefer not to think objectively. I didn't rant I thoroughly identified obvious holes in your view, but you are not willing to be reasonable and accept that and change your view or counter mine with substance. You would apparently rather counter with arrogant nonsense, utterly devoid of substance. What's the difference if someone talks to the person next to them or on a phone anyways? And frankly I don't give a crap what you want to hear. Deal with it.
 
I fly on average of 20+ flights a year and please no talking!

We business travelers want it quiet

Aww that's cute that you say that. I am a business traveler too and I was having a pleasant conversation - and honestly not a very loud one, when the pompous bad-hair-day lady in a business suit turned around in her seat and said in a very foul tone and look - "You should be quiet! Some of us are trying to rest!"

My response was to smile and say, "Well you should learn to ask nicely and plan your travel time so a loud jet isn't your bedroom. Also get some nice earplugs or headphones after you climb down from your high-horse."

Same goes for you, cupcake. Buy headphones that are noise canceling and get some tracks on your phone or iPod that are designed to mask ambient noise and chatter. :p A child could be next to me screaming at the top of their lungs and I would barely hear it.

Usually the reason a child screams is because the pressure on their ears causes pain. I find it happens most on takeoff and descent. You should learn to take it in stride unless of course the child is beating on your seat. Then politely ask the parent or involve a flight attendant to avoid escalating the conflict.

Or purchase first class where there are fewer children. :D

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If the DOT wants to decide what is "fair" to consumers, I hope they will also look into if it is "fair" to allow someone to sit in a seat they cannot possibly fit into and intrude into the seat next to them.

Yep. As seats keep getting smaller and more plentiful in the same space that's super easy, right? No blame for the airlines here, huh?


While on my rant, let's throw in the ridiculous size of the bags people try to bring on board as carry ons. They can hardly lift those bags over their heads, let alone fit them into the compartment. Pisses me off the airlines let this stuff continue

I see, so it doesn't piss you off that the airlines continue to eke out every possible dollar for every single thing someone tries to do? Yeah, again, no blame for the airlines here.

I personally cannot wait for the self-driving cars. Most of my trips are within 8 to 10 hours driving distance, and with the crap from the TSA to contend with and the airlines rules - driving is preferable unless I am traveling internationally...
 
When I'm flying I need to either work or catch up on sleep. Why should I be punished because some Chatty Cathy next to me wants to talk about her cats with her mother for two hours. Good grief. There is no reason to need to use a phone on a plane.

And why should I be punished when

1 - It's pretty much a public place with a lot of people you don't know.
2 - It's not your bedroom.

You want to catch up on sleep? Then I would certainly support you purchasing a first class seat or wishing right along with you that nobody bothers you. I feel your pain - really I do. Sometimes you get lucky, other times you learn more about Cathy's cats than you really wanted to.

But to EXPECT to catch up on sleep? Maybe this is a wakeup call from the Universe telling you that maybe you should plan your life better. Next thing you'll be asking your seat mate to tuck you in? Leave a mint on your neck pillow? :D

And as to trying to get work done with someone chatting away next to you? If you can't work in noisy environments or use a pair of headphones, MAYBE THE FREAKING AIRPLANE ISN'T SUPPOSED TO BE YOUR OFFICE, EITHER?!

:rolleyes:

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The only Wi-Fi data service permitted aboard an aircraft would be HTTP/HTTPS via a forward proxy with periodic ~500 millisecond pauses inserted. That'd be fine for Web browsing, not fine for much of anything else.

Ha! The pauses are already there. Try running for grins and giggles a continuous ping test on your home servers. Air WiFi ain't all that fast to begin with. :p
 
I fly on average of 20+ flights a year and please no talking!

We business travelers want it quiet

And shut your baby up.

You're a terrible parent by letting it cry

It is obvious that you have no kids, i think you are one of those annoying business traveler that think flights are only for businessmen, and try to put your gigantic carry on inside the plane because you don't have time to wait for your baggage at baggage claim, fyi every one thinks he or she is the perfect traveler, but the reality is that no one is perfect not even if you fly 20+ times a year and think you have all figured out, yes yes you deserve the best attention because you travel a lot. get real, if you want to travel quiet and fast pay a charter plane, or even better get a private plane, if you can't afford it then your bad, and share a plane with 200 annoying people...

He probably doesn't realize or forgot the fact that at one time, he was that crying child on a flight that some other business traveler wanted to tear his parents a new one for not shutting him up.

If these business travelers are so adamant about wanting it so quiet for their flight, they should either
  1. charter their own flight, or
  2. get a pilot's license, and fly their own plane.

BL.
 
That's the last thing we need is 200 people in a small space talking over each other 20,000 ft up.

"HELLO? CAN YOU HEAR ME? SORRY IM ON A PLANE AND ITS REALLY NOISY"

Yes, but what if Airlines made "call rooms" so that people can call on a plane if they really need to (like smoking areas)?
 
I fly on average of 20+ flights a year and please no talking!

We business travelers want it quiet

And shut your baby up.

You're a terrible parent by letting it cry

Put your money where your mouth is and upgrade to business class- less chance of being disturbed. And while we're at it, if you and I were on a plane together and you ever complained about my overtired, distressed and crying child who probably can't fall asleep, you and I would have words.
 
I fly on average of 20+ flights a year and please no talking!

We business travelers want it quiet

And shut your baby up.

You're a terrible parent by letting it cry

And you must be no parent at all if you think you have complete control over whether or not your baby cries.
 
nobody wants to listen to anybody talking on their phone. Use your ipad and play angry birds and shut up.

Actually, they should ban babies on board i think that is the biggest problem of every flight, a baby that is crying for 10 hours nonstop and their parents are so retarded that they dont know how to keep him quiet.
 
Sounds like the anti-guv'ment anti-regulation conservatives/Libertarians don't know where to be on this issue. On one hand, it's guv'ment getting involved in people's freedoms. On the other, no guv'ment involvement will annoy the very people who hate regulations.

What to do, what to do?

If these conservatives/Libertarians actually had any principle and stood by their beliefs, then guv'ment has no place interfering with people's freedoms and people should be allowed to talk on their phones on planes.
 
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