MP 1,1-5,1 FCP questions

ashman70

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I am thinking of getting FCP and learning it for video editing. I just got a MP 4,1 updated to a 5,1 with a single hex core xeon and 32GB of RAM. I have an RX 560 in it now running Mojave, will that be sufficient for FCP or should I consider upgrading to a Sapphire RX 580? I am currently booting off an SSD on a PCIe card.
 

tsialex

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I am thinking of getting FCP and learning it for video editing. I just got a MP 4,1 updated to a 5,1 with a single hex core xeon and 32GB of RAM. I have an RX 560 in it now running Mojave, will that be sufficient for FCP or should I consider upgrading to a Sapphire RX 580? I am currently booting off an SSD on a PCIe card.
For learning FCPx and casual use, is more than enough. For anything more that the casual use, you should get more RAM, use fast scratch disks and a more powerful GPU, even enable AMD GPU hardware encoding to spend a lot less time with encoding/exports.
 

ashman70

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I have a project which is the reason I want to learn FCP, it involves 4K footage. Can I enable hardware acceleration on the RX 560?
 

tsialex

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I have a project which is the reason I want to learn FCP, it involves 4K footage. Can I enable hardware acceleration on the RX 560?
Yes you can, but RX 560 hardware encoding capabilities are somewhat weak when you compare with RX 580 or newer AMD GPUs.
 

ashman70

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I may just pick up a 580 at this point, i don't know how much encoding I may even need to do.
Thanks
 

tsialex

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I may just pick up a 580 at this point, i don't know how much encoding I may even need to do.
Thanks
Use your RX 560 now, see what your workflow needs, then go for a more powerful GPU. Maybe you will can get an used VEGA 56 with some searching.
 
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ashman70

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Thanks for the idea, I just don't want to have to do any crazy power mods for my next GPU, I would like a single slot simple but powerful enough GPU for my needs.
 

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Thanks for the idea, I just don't want to have to do any crazy power mods for my next GPU, I would like a single slot simple but powerful enough GPU for my needs.
All RX 580 are dual slot, with most being 2.2 or 2.3 slots wide. Only some workstation GPUs are single slot now and those cost a lot more than any RX 580/VEGA 56.
 
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ashman70

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I thought there was a Sapphire model that only took up one slot?
 

ashman70

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So there are no cards in the range of the 580 or better that aren't dual slot cards?
 

tsialex

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So there are no cards in the range of the 580 or better that aren't dual slot cards?
Like I said, only workstations cards, like some models of FirePro/Radeon Pro that costs 2x or more than the price of gaming cards.

WX7100 is one that is single slot and equivalent of a RX 480, same Ellesmere GPU:


eBay has used ones for ~$370.
 

bsbeamer

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See this if your RX580 does not fit with a card above:

It is absolutely a 2.2 or 2.3 card with the protrusions. You CAN fit cards in the slot above. Personally currently have a PX1 NVMe adapter in slot 2, previously had Apricorn Velocity Solo x2 and then a Duo x2 for a short period of time.
 
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FCPX and 4K on the MP 5,1 is not ideal. if you must use a 5,1 get the best GPU and the fastest video storage you can buy. even then, scrubbing on the timeline and clips will stutter. The UI actually performs better on a MacBook Pro 13’ connected to a QNAP RAID thunderbolt 3 than my 5,1 connected via 10G Ethernet.
 

ashman70

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FCPX and 4K on the MP 5,1 is not ideal. if you must use a 5,1 get the best GPU and the fastest video storage you can buy. even then, scrubbing on the timeline and clips will stutter. The UI actually performs better on a MacBook Pro 13’ connected to a QNAP RAID thunderbolt 3 than my 5,1 connected via 10G Ethernet.
Thanks for the heads up, for now I will have to make the best of what I have with my single six core CPU. I'd love to upgrade to a dual core setup but trays for the 4,1 are hard to find at a reasonable price up here in Canada.
 

motulist

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I'm doing 4k editing on a 2012 MacBook pro. For basic editing it works ok, you just have to adjust to it's limitations, and fiinal renders take forever.

In other words, you can do 4k work on any machine, you just have to expect it to be slower and less capable in what it can display for your realtime preview.
 

ashman70

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Yeah I get that, as I said, since I have never used FCP before I have no expectations, but yeah I'll be patient.
 
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