Fellow Dvorak users... tell me you're out there!

Discussion in 'Community Discussion' started by chadabshier, Jan 28, 2010.

  1. chadabshier macrumors newbie

    Mar 7, 2008
    I switched from Qwerty to Dvorak 3.5 years ago and have never looked back. Increased my typing speed from 35wpm to 75wpm.

    Who else has made the switch? Any people thinking about switching?

    What do you think of the wireless Dvorak keyboard?

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  2. NT1440 macrumors G4


    May 18, 2008
  3. chadabshier thread starter macrumors newbie

    Mar 7, 2008
    Ya, about that. For some reason I never typed well in Qwerty. I always made mistakes and such. And I was never good with things like the "?" and "+" and such. But they all make sense to me now... everything is where it should be.

    Switching was hard though. It took about 3 weeks before you can even function on the computer again... reprogramming your brain and fingers to a new keyboard was really weird. After about 2-3 weeks I was pretty much back up to 30-35 wpm. Then after a couple months I was typing about 60 wpm and now I type about 70-75ish wpm.

    I can still look and type on a Qwerty keyboard and get about 25 wpm.

    I love running across words and phrases that (in Qwerty) have no letters on the home row; it makes me laugh. Examples: powerpoint, youtube.com
  4. p01ntbl4nk macrumors newbie

    Dec 7, 2009
    i never really understand dvorak...
    i've tried it twice before..
    it feels like i'm back to when i was 10 years old..
    with my first computer..
    trying to hunt and peck the letters to type my own name... :p
    i do heard that dvorak is actually aimed to typist,
    i don't know what kind of work you do, but i don't think that dvorak is really good for programming.
    i mean, well, we do type, but other than that, we use shortcut also.. a lot of them actually..
    and shortcuts were made with the consideration that the users are using qwerty.
    take cut copy paste for example.
    it's placed logically close to command modified button (command, alt, ctrl, shift)
    with dvorak u'll have to 'reach' to 'C' with your right ring finger (i think)
    and that's (in my opinion) a bit too far..
    but the hardest thing is to modify your muscle memory..
    but great for you..
    i've never even met anyone who uses dvorak..
  5. cb911 macrumors 601


    Mar 12, 2002
    BrisVegas, Australia
    i did learn DVORAK, some years ago. it was fantastic. if you do lots of typing, or just want to type faster - then it's for you. (i originally learnt to touch-type just so i could type and post faster on this forum. :D )

    yes you do have to learn it, it takes some time. but unless you do you will have no idea how fast you will be able to type. lots of common words can by typed without even moving your fingers from the home row. think about that - you have no idea how much faster that makes typing.

    when i had started to learn DVORAK i was still switching between QWERTY. for me it wasn't a matter of "unlearning" QWERTY, you can know and use both. (or at least that's my experience.)

    i may look into using DVORAK again, espeically if i can get a DVORAK keyboard. as has been mentioned it's the shortcuts that make it a bit tricky. i use Photoshop and InDesign etc. alot so to change my main computer to DVORAK was a bit tricky. (of course you can re-map the shortcut keys...) I did actually re-arrange the keys on my TiBook G4 to DVORAK and used it like that for a while. confused the heck out of people when they saw it. hahaha :D

    maybe when i get a laptop or something i will just use it as my dedicated typing/writing machine and go back to DVORAK... :)
  6. p01ntbl4nk macrumors newbie

    Dec 7, 2009
    actually.. just now, just for the heck of it, i tried to find typing tests on the internet..
    i tried a few, and always give me around 71-74 wpm...
    i guess i do type fast :p
    but if i use dvorak.. and let's assume that i already am good at it.. how much will it increase my speed?
    does anyone type at that speed?
    probably his or her fingers would just go blur :p
  7. cb911 macrumors 601


    Mar 12, 2002
    BrisVegas, Australia
    heck that is fairly fast!

    but yes your speed will increase!

    i'm not sure on figures, but i'm sure there's some DVORAK sites out there that would have the answers.

    just the fact that QWERTY layout was designed to slow down the typing speed...
  8. kellen macrumors 68020


    Aug 11, 2006
    Seattle, WA
    I can hit over 100 if I am warmed up. However my problem with dvorak would be using other peoples computers and work. I wouldn't be able to switch back and forth between qwerty and dvorak.
  9. chadabshier thread starter macrumors newbie

    Mar 7, 2008
    Getting your brain to learn the new shortcuts (Ctrl+c, Ctrl+v, etc) is the same and getting your brain to learn new letter positions. To me, copy and paste are just as easy as they were in Qwerty.

    They are two handed for me now, which seems easier to me actually. In Qwerty they are one handed... which is like using the left Shift key to make a capital A, S, D, or F... you should be using the right Shift key for those letters (in Qwerty of course).
  10. alphaod macrumors Core


    Feb 9, 2008
    I try to use Dvorak, but I need a lot more practice.
  11. fireshot91 macrumors 601


    Jul 31, 2008
    Northern VA
    I just did a game on TypeRacer, and got a 118 wpm. :eek:

    QWERTY here.
  12. iWright macrumors member

    Aug 15, 2009
    Didn't know Apple made Dvoraks, couldn't see myself switching to one because I'm rather comfortable on a QWERTY + phone's etc. don't have Dvorak layout. But glad its worked out for you :)
  13. King Mook Mook macrumors 6502

    I didn't know that! Why would they design it to slow you down?
  14. cb911 macrumors 601


    Mar 12, 2002
    BrisVegas, Australia
    My understanding was that typewriters kept jamming because people were typing too fast on them, so they changed the typewriter layout to QWERTY to slow down the typing. Now we have QWERTY keyboards everywhere simply because it was carried over from typewriters.
  15. Eric5h5 macrumors 68020

    Dec 9, 2004
    The "QWERTY was designed to slow typists down" thing is a total fabrication. There were actually a number of different keyboard designs early on; QWERTY won out because it was at least as good as any of them. Also, read this, which casts some pretty reasonable doubt on the idea that Dvorak actually is any better.

  16. quadG5guy macrumors member

    Jan 26, 2010
    Richmond, VA
    Almost. QWERTY is not designed to slow typists down - it's designed so that the most common letter sequences do not result in adjacent key presses.

    On the old hammer style typewriters, if you pushed two keys that were right next to each other in rapid succession, the two hammers would collide and stick together. So QWERTY was designed specifically to make typing common words into an exercise of using the entire keyboard. DVORAK on the other hand is precisely the opposite, so that you have as little finger movement as possible when typing common sequences.
  17. andrewdale macrumors 6502a

    Jan 28, 2008
    Memphis, TN
    Well, I know Apple has an input called "Dvorak - Qwerty ⌘" that uses Dvorak for regular typing, but then when you press ⌘ to do a shortcut, it reverts back to Qwerty. I guess this would allow you to have a stepping stone in learning.
  18. MacNut macrumors Core


    Jan 4, 2002
    QWERTY is easy, plus I am not going to relearn to type all over.
  19. Zombie Acorn macrumors 65816

    Zombie Acorn

    Feb 2, 2009
    Toronto, Ontario
    Tried it, didn't see the point, I can already type upwards into 80-90 wpm anyways.

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