Fewer 4K Titles on iTunes Now?

PTVMan

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Has anyone noticed that quite a few titles have been removed from the 4K section of iTunes? For example, Prometheus was listed under Sci-fi & Fantasy but is no longer there. And in general as you scroll through titles in the 4K section it seems to be thinner.
 

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Not to stray too far off topic, but in better news (…for me) -- Thanks to this thread, I've just realized that my own copy of Prometheus -- an old digital redeem from my blu-ray copy -- has upgraded from standard definition to full HD for me! Along with other Fox titles in my library like Black Swan, Tree of Life, and Beasts of the Southern Wild. My own copy of Star Trek (2009) is still in SD, though.
Rise of the Planet of the Apes upgraded for me, too. And it's a 4K title, so it went from old standard def digital-code-redeem to full on 4K!

They're still expanding this 4K library and making adjustments, so hopefully Prometheus will go back to 4K. This is still really cool though. I hope it's the same situation for others, not just myself.
[doublepost=1508203946][/doublepost]Ugh nevermind ignore me I'm a dunce. Those movies I listed are still in SD. They just added iTunes Extras to them, and my Apple TV gave the HD / 4K logos to them in my library. But the titles still play in standard definition. (And Star Trek is a Paramount title, not Fox. I totes knew that.)
 

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I've got this in my purchased library in SD, but even though in the store it shows as 4k, when I play it it only plays SD, with no option to upgrade it ?
I'm having the same problem with Star Trek (2009).
 

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Not to stray too far off topic, but in better news (…for me) -- Thanks to this thread, I've just realized that my own copy of Prometheus -- an old digital redeem from my blu-ray copy -- has upgraded from standard definition to full HD for me! Along with other Fox titles in my library like Black Swan, Tree of Life, and Beasts of the Southern Wild. My own copy of Star Trek (2009) is still in SD, though.
Rise of the Planet of the Apes upgraded for me, too. And it's a 4K title, so it went from old standard def digital-code-redeem to full on 4K!

They're still expanding this 4K library and making adjustments, so hopefully Prometheus will go back to 4K. This is still really cool though. I hope it's the same situation for others, not just myself.
[doublepost=1508203946][/doublepost]Ugh nevermind ignore me I'm a dunce. Those movies I listed are still in SD. They just added iTunes Extras to them, and my Apple TV gave the HD / 4K logos to them in my library. But the titles still play in standard definition. (And Star Trek is a Paramount title, not Fox. I totes knew that.)
Yeah my old copy of Star Trek is still in SD and the stupidest thing about the ATV is once something is in SD it doesn't allow you to even purchase a higher resolution, even if I wanted to.
 
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Is there a workaround to rebuying a movie in 4K after you already own it in HD? I redeemed Spider-Man home coming in movies anywhere and got the HD version ported everywhere. I want to buy it in iTunes to get the bump to 4K.
 

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Not to stray too far off topic, but in better news (…for me) -- Thanks to this thread, I've just realized that my own copy of Prometheus -- an old digital redeem from my blu-ray copy -- has upgraded from standard definition to full HD for me! Along with other Fox titles in my library like Black Swan, Tree of Life, and Beasts of the Southern Wild. My own copy of Star Trek (2009) is still in SD, though.
Rise of the Planet of the Apes upgraded for me, too. And it's a 4K title, so it went from old standard def digital-code-redeem to full on 4K!

They're still expanding this 4K library and making adjustments, so hopefully Prometheus will go back to 4K. This is still really cool though. I hope it's the same situation for others, not just myself.
[doublepost=1508203946][/doublepost]Ugh nevermind ignore me I'm a dunce. Those movies I listed are still in SD. They just added iTunes Extras to them, and my Apple TV gave the HD / 4K logos to them in my library. But the titles still play in standard definition. (And Star Trek is a Paramount title, not Fox. I totes knew that.)
Are you sure they're in SD quality? When I look at them on my iTunes library page in my Mac, it clearly shows what everything is. And when I downloaded the non-HD titles they appeared as SD resolution.

However, when I view them on my ATV, the two SD movies that have HD options, appear to be much higher resolution than the SD movie that only has an SD option and no HD available. The difference is stark. Now I suppose it could be the difference between the transfers, but is it possible Apple is streaming HD content where available, even though I only own an SD version for download?

When I swipe down on the remote, it clearly shows the SD titles to be non-HD (I.e. No HD logo). But they don't look SD.

Then there are several old SD titles I've redeemed which I know were only SD at the time, because they were screeners, and DVD quality only, not BluRay, intentionally.

I wish there were a way in the ATV4K to see the actual resolution details as streaming. I personally find this box incredibly frustrating, since it only reports to the TV what resolution it's outputting, and not the source video. There are times when it takes the video a while to hit full picture quality depending on my internet connection at any given time, and it'd be nice to verify what I'm actually seeing, not just what I'm supposed to own.

Is there a workaround to rebuying a movie in 4K after you already own it in HD? I redeemed Spider-Man home coming in movies anywhere and got the HD version ported everywhere. I want to buy it in iTunes to get the bump to 4K.
iTunes on a Mac or PC makes this easier to see and do. You'll see both an option to play the movie you already own in SD/HD and then below that a purchase option for HD/4K.
 

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iTunes on a Mac or PC makes this easier to see and do. You'll see both an option to play the movie you already own in SD/HD and then below that a purchase option for HD/4K.
Except if you own a movie in HD through a matched service (Movies Anywhere, Vudu, Amazon) iTunes on a Mac will only show the options to "Play" or "Download." There is no option to upgrade an HD version to 4K for any eligible title not purchased in iTunes.

I've submitted a feedback to apple stating that the version you own (HD for matched titles) need to show the HD badge in your library and there needs to be a link added to purchased the 4K version if you wish.

I hope this sorts out and they offer a solution to upgrade from HD to 4K for a nominal fee, not have to repurchase a movie in whole.
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Yep something is def going on. Power Rangers was a 4K title as well.
If you did any sort of library integration with Movies anywhere, you'll see a 4K badge on eligible movies in your library on the Apple TV. The key is to actually play that movie and swipe down. You'll see your only streaming in HD as your title is not eligible for a free upgrade to 4K as it wasn't purchased through Apple.

I hopped on the Apple TV 4K when Movies Anywhere came out and purchased a bunch of 4K eligible titles through Vudu and Amazon syncing them to my iTunes library as reports were coming out that people were getting those titles upgraded for free to 4K.

I'm not going to say I feel duped as Apple only ever said they'll upgrade to 4K your titles purchased through iTunes, but damn look at most all reports (The Verge, Engadget, etc) when Movies Anywhere came out and they showed screen shots of the TV app - Library on their phones and it showed the 4K badging. No one did enough digging to see that yes iTunes shows that badge, but you're library only has the HD version.
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Is there a workaround to rebuying a movie in 4K after you already own it in HD? I redeemed Spider-Man home coming in movies anywhere and got the HD version ported everywhere. I want to buy it in iTunes to get the bump to 4K.
According to a phone conversation I'm having right now with Apple. You can only delete the title from your library and repurchase it though iTunes at the 4K area.
 

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Except if you own a movie in HD through a matched service (Movies Anywhere, Vudu, Amazon) iTunes on a Mac will only show the options to "Play" or "Download." There is no option to upgrade an HD version to 4K for any eligible title not purchased in iTunes.

I've submitted a feedback to apple stating that the version you own (HD for matched titles) need to show the HD badge in your library and there needs to be a link added to purchased the 4K version if you wish.

I hope this sorts out and they offer a solution to upgrade from HD to 4K for a nominal fee, not have to repurchase a movie in whole..
That's not my experience at all.

I'm looking at movies I purchased in HD through Vudu on my Mac running 12.7.0.166 on OS 10.12.6, and there's clearly two tabs in the store -- one to download the HD movie, and the other to purchase it in 4K.
 

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Recently, for some reason thumbnails for any of my items purchased through iTunes are not even showing up on the TV app any longer, especially TV series episodes. It feels as if the Apple TV 4K is driving people back to physical media. Maybe that’s a good thing
 

mpayne2k

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That's not my experience at all.

I'm looking at movies I purchased in HD through Vudu on my Mac running 12.7.0.166 on OS 10.12.6, and there's clearly two tabs in the store -- one to download the HD movie, and the other to purchase it in 4K.
Interesting. I am running OS 10.13.1 Beta, but on same iTunes version (12.7.0.166). I wonder if it is the Beta?
 

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Hmm well certain movies were showing up as 4K and Dolby Vision before and a lot still are, majority purchased via a uhd purchase.

Spider-Man Homecoming was bought through Movies Anywhere with the uhd disc and is showing 4K Dolby Vision. So I’m sensing something else is going on.

I had Furious 7 upgraded before, now it’s back to HD.
 

NameUndecided

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Are you sure they're in SD quality? When I look at them on my iTunes library page in my Mac, it clearly shows what everything is. And when I downloaded the non-HD titles they appeared as SD resolution. …
I've just checked again, and they do play in HD now. They really didn't that first night I checked on both my ATV and MacBook, but it must have been while they were in the process of switching up. Or something.

I think this is a side effect of linking to Movies Anywhere. FOX updated apparently all of their SD titles. Paramount's Star Trek is still SD for me. And, sadly, my Rise of the Planet of the Apes and Prometheus titles only play in HD and not in 4K HDR (oh wellllll). So yeah, it's probably Movies Anywhere.