FIA proposes the return of tyre stops

[iGav]

The whole of the car is an aero part, so unless they are going IRL I don't see how this will work.

Well if they ban winglets, and give relatively defined restrictions for the main bodywork, control wings front and rear would contribute a lot to maintaining reasonably equal downforce.

They can't screw up worse than this season can they?

Some would say it was an unparalled success... well Schu and Ferrari are no longer World Champions aren't they.

 

[anonymous161]

Well if they ban winglets, and give relatively defined restrictions for the main bodywork, control wings front and rear would contribute a lot to maintaining reasonably equal downforce.

EDIT: That's it though, "reasonably equal". I don't see how they could keep designers from changing the surface countours of the airbox, radiator boxes, and nose to gain more downforce without going to a standard or mostly standard body. Everyone would start out with "x newtons" and then immediately someone would develop "x newtons + 1" and so on.

Some would say it was an unparalled success... well Schu and Ferrari are no longer World Champions aren't they.

It's funny, to me at least, that the majority of the crowds at races wear red, yet somehoe Ferrari are bad for the sport.
I'm a Ferrari fan, so obviously I don't know much

 

[Lord Blackadder]

Some would say it was an unparalled success... well Schu and Ferrari are no longer World Champions aren't they.

Personally I don't care what rules changes they make, as long as the racing looks more like Suzuka a week ago.

I'm still an F1 newbie, but I have noticed the race announcers harping about a lack of downforce when following close that really inhibits passing. And I saw the results at Suzuka clearly when Kimi was trying to pass Webber and Schu. The car understeered noticably when it was up another car's rear. This needs to be changed. Also, I enjoyed the tire changes - they need to come back.

I would say that this season was more eventful than '04 - but not always for the right reasons. Highs and lows.

 

[iGav]

I'm still an F1 newbie, but I have noticed the race announcers harping about a lack of downforce when following close that really inhibits passing. And I saw the results at Suzuka clearly when Kimi was trying to pass Webber and Schu. The car understeered noticably when it was up another car's rear. This needs to be changed.

Yeah, it's because the majority of the cars grip is generated by the downforce pushing the car onto the track, as soon as that downforce is reduced then the cars produce less grip meaning that it's more difficult to follow the car in front closely enough to make a pass, even if you've got a massive car advantage.

What JFreak, myself and just about every other F1 fan in the world want is to see the balance tipped over in favour of mechanical grip, and for a reduction in aero dependency, that way the car is less reliant on downforce and will allow it to follow the car in front more closely.

Whilst Suzuka was a great spectacle, what made it great was 2 outstanding drivers in cars 1.5 seconds quicker than everything else, starting from the back of the grid, but even then... both had difficulties overtaking cars that at some points in the race were nearer 2 seconds a lap slower. With the exception of those 2 drivers and the Red Baron, overtaking levels were pretty much consistant with the other races.

What we need is for cars that are only 1 or 2 tenths apart to be able to have the opportunity to overtake exactly like what happened at Suzuka last weekend.

You could do a lot worse than track down a copy of 'Formula One Review 1990' and see the difference between back then and now. Then make your mind up to how things should be. Let us know what you think too.

I would say that this season was more eventful than '04 - but not always for the right reasons. Highs and lows.

I think it's been a pretty good season, 2003 was better, as up until very late in the season we had Schu, Kimi and Montoya all in contention, and the WDC actually went down to the last race.

This year I think it's been hyped up... not the drivers, but the closeness of the championship, Kimi didn't really have much hope of catching Alonso after the seasons half way point because the point gap was too big, his car wasn't reliable and they were too few races to catch Mr Consistancy... and as such the championship was dragged out on mathematical possibilities.

 

[iGav]

EDIT: That's it though, "reasonably equal". I don't see how they could keep designers from changing the surface countours of the airbox, radiator boxes, and nose to gain more downforce without going to a standard or mostly standard body. Everyone would start out with "x newtons" and then immediately someone would develop "x newtons + 1" and so on.

What you have to consider though, is that if control wings are bought in, and we also see an increase in mechanical grip, (fat slicks for example) then the priorities of the designers will change.

If the control wings create so much drag and turbulence behind them, coupled with the increase in mechanical grip, then the designers won't necessarily be looking at optimising downforce because the performance gains will be less than what they are now, in which case like Max says they'll look in to other areas to improve the cars performance.

 

[Counterfit]

the Red Baron

Haven't heard that one before

Of course, his car is much faster than a Fokker D.I

 

[takao]

Haven't heard that one before

Of course, his car is much faster than a Fokker D.I

yeah but the car lacks the machine guns

 

[Counterfit]

But it's agile enough to dodge them






Or not.

 

[reberto]

Yeep Yeep yepeeeeee!

Yes!!!!

Rinky dink link

Proposed qualifying format is just plain silly though.