Files app should be able to access everything on your device

Because the 3rd party apps need to be updated which wont happen until official release in the fall once iOS11 updates are allowed in the app store? Same as Dropbox, onedrive etc for integration into Files.

Nothing is gimped. Notice the only ones showing are Apple apps for obvious reasons.

 

My Onedrive is on there and accessible but it opens in a separate smaller window.

 

Because it's just a basic link to the app in the meantime; same was as the old way of attaching to mail or saving an attachment via the share sheet interface. It's not integrated yet which will come once 11 is released both MS and Dropbox have already announced.

 

Apps have to be updated to support the Files app.

 

Is still a privilege of jailbreak user btw.

 

I don’t think anyone knows their plans for that. Based on history though I wouldn’t expect Music or TV to have openly accessible folders in there. They might surprise us though.

 

I doubt this will even be possible. Its pretty much just an app giving you access to all your different cloud solutions in one spot

 

This puts files app as a reduced function Documents app. Barely a shell of iCloud Drive app.
Well, maybe a later beta would surprise us.

 

Allow all access = one step closer to jailbreak.
Even if not, sandbox means it is difficult to assign a common area to put everything inside without damaging the privacy.

 

What use would this be needed for? Apple wants your media synced via iTunes on a computer or itunes store/apple music apps, not side loaded, to begin with.

Further what possible real world usage scenario would one be using the Files app uploading or downloading GB of movies on their phone to icloud/dropbox/onedrive services? (before kiiling their data or battery)

This is not a free for all open up from Apple. It is a good start though.

 

Wow, this "On My iPad" location in Files.app is not what I was expecting or wanted. I liked the idea of saving something to my actual iPad and know for certain it was on the device even if I wasn't on a network. I'm not even referring to movies or video, just like a PDF I downloaded from the Internet or something like that. I don't want to associate it to an application, I just want a place I can put it. Disappointing.

 

No one knows yet, the app is not even fully functioning (and likely wont be until final release time). The on your device section does nothing right now and moving anything to it is grayed out currently; and totally blank if you have no Apple productivity apps (pages, numbers, etc).

No one has any idea what Apple's plan is and the on device was not discussed in the keynote (likely intentionally).

Lots of assumptions and doom and gloom going on here based on being in beta under 30 days total; considering a week ago it did literally nothing and no apps even showed.

 

You're not wrong. Could be just a beta thing, which is what I'm hoping. No doom or gloom required.

 

AH...yes. You have no idea what the App is for. Got it.

 

Like I said, you don't understand the Files app.

Has it escaped your notice that the "On My iPhone" section isn't even usable yet?

 

I wouldn’t consider those files either. Since you did put them through iTunes, I would imagine them only being used within their respectable media apps (Photos, Music, and TV) unless otherwise accessible through API for obvious reasons.
You can put those videos in iCloud Drive or I’m guessing just save them in the ‘On My iPad’ section (which as of now isn’t functional yet) to be able to open them in different apps (also something that isn’t possible yet).
We really don’t know the extent of how integrated the Files app will be but I can certainly tell you that anything that will ‘puncture’ the sandbox will not possible due to privacy, security, DRM, etc.

 

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I don't know exactly what all this is going to look like in the end either but puncture get the sandbox is an explicit goal according to Craig Federighi, on the post WWDC Talk Show (I think he may have even used that word, or very similar). The idea being that it is explicitly with a user's consent. There are a couple of interesting talks up on the Apple site but even having watched them it's all still a bit vague. Couple of more betas and we'll have a better picture of what's coming.

I still doubt TV and Music will expose their contents though.