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What do you mean by getting back into the phone business? Sony was never out of it really.
No offense...I just never considered them as big player in the phone space, nor much of a high end competitor until the latest in the Sony XPERIA 1 series, which most reviewers I read considered to be a camera that also makes phone calls.

I believe that their market share is less than 2%, so I can't imagine they are making any money doing this...unless they are playing the long game, like they did with mirrorless. Then it might be brilliant. I just don't think it is all about phones.

Time will tell.
 
It can't import Flash files either - both are as good as dead formats.

Transcode those files into something useful before edit. Problem solved.
I do, but I shouldn't have to. I have a couple of digital video cameras I use that record in AVI. It would be more convenient for FCPX to import them and transcode them for me.
 
Would I be the only person interested in such a product?
I’ve wondered what an iPad (Pro)-sized large format camera would be like. Sure, large format cameras have been pretty much replaced by full frame and medium format cameras, but I gotta wonder what kind of quality a camera that size would bring nowadays. An image sensor that size + Apple’s processing would be crazy.
 
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This is really neat, and truly worthy of the "Pro" name. It would be even cooler if there was a way to record directly to external storage, like a USB-C SSD or an internal micro SD card, because with video you will run out of space quite fast no matter what size storage you got.
I’d love to see Apple add a microSD card, but I’m sure they never will do that. I’d love to swap out cards so I can take more pictures/videos, or swap out different songs. Sure, many songs can be streamed now, but I have a number of albums on CD not found on streaming services
 
ugh, requires 13.4 or above. Hate that they lock new workflows behind their buggy, aggressive yearly released OS
Where are you reading that information? Neither the FCP System Requirement page or the FCP Release Notes page mention any such information. Apple says, "Minimum System Requirements macOS 12.6 or later"...

Final Cut Pro for Mac - Technical Specifications - Apple

Final Cut Pro release notes - Apple Support

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New in Final Cut Pro 10.6.9


Released September 19, 2023
Final Cut Pro 10.6.9 includes the following enhancements:

  • Take advantage of the flexibility and dynamic range of log-encoded video shot on iPhone 15 Pro and iPhone 15 Pro Max.
  • Use new third-party log profiles to enhance the look of footage shot on popular cameras from Fujifilm, DJI, and ARRI.
  • Adds support for Cinematic video recorded with iPhone on iOS 17.
Improvements and bug fixes:
  • Fixes an issue that could cause Motion templates to not respond to Opacity parameter adjustments.
  • Fixes an issue that could cause duplicating a project to result in the original project opening in the timeline.
  • Fixes an issue that caused some Canon 4K 24fps media to not be recognized properly.
  • Fixes an issue that could cause the app to stop responding when the Share menu was opened.
  • Fixes an issue where a background render would sometimes not complete when stabilization or rolling shutter were selected in the inspector.


Get complete step-by-step how-to instructions and information on all features in Final Cut Pro. For a list of recent enhancements in Final Cut Pro, refer to What's New in Final Cut Pro.

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No offense...I just never considered them as big player in the phone space, nor much of a high end competitor until the latest in the Sony XPERIA 1 series, which most reviewers I read considered to be a camera that also makes phone calls.
I'm not saying they are big player in this space, just that they have been consistently in the space. Longer in fact than Apple is, I think they even made mobile phones before Sony Ericsson.

They certainly don't have a big market share, but then you also have to consider that especially the Android market also consists of tons of low-price devices, which is not what Sony is after (in any space ;) )
 
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I continue to find myself thinking: why doesn't Apple create a brand new product that flips the script here? Instead of dealing with the very hard limitations of physics of trying to jam ever-better cameras into a skinny phone form factor, how about develop the best camera form factor they can and glom the phone functionality onto that?

No, that's not hold a camera up to an ear to make a call (buds with mic for phone calls).

No, this isn't an idea about killing the phone and replacing it with a camera. This would be a new product where the entire focus could be on maximizing the camera innovations. The whole phone + iPod + Internet device parts just needs a good-sized screen on the back.

Like photographers have for generations, this camera + phone hybrid (instead of phone + camera hybrid) hangs around the neck or shoulder on a strap instead of being a skinny brick in a pocket...

Peak-design-slide-camera-strap1.jpg

In exchange for that inconvenience, all of the skinny brick limitations would come off of maximizing the camera picture, video & sound quality... resulting in much better pictures, videos and sound.

Would I be the only person interested in such a product?
I'm right here with you. Would love some kind of a power-bank case that has a nice side grip, the most important buttons (not just shutter), a big sensor and lens mount, ideally an SD card slot as well. Use the phone's sensors for focusing and metering and let the phone do all the processing. I mean night mode, auto-HDR and Live Photos are all fantastic, imagine what you could do with an actual lens and sensor.

Maybe now with USB-C someone can make such a thing.
 
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10.6.9 requires 13.4. its in the app store banner, and it wont let me update on 12.6.9
Ah, yes, I see that now...

SS - Apple Store FCP 10.6.9 Requirements.png


...thanks for the shoulder tap! LOL

Also found this updated info here...

What’s new in Final Cut Pro for Mac - Apple Support

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What’s new in Final Cut Pro for Mac

Final Cut Pro 10.6.9 introduces new features and enhancements, detailed below.

Log support for iPhone

Take advantage of the flexibility and dynamic range of log-encoded video shot on iPhone 15 Pro. See Apply LUTs in Final Cut Pro for Mac.

New third-party log support

Easily enhance the look of footage shot on popular cameras from Fujifilm, DJI, and ARRI. See Apply LUTs in Final Cut Pro for Mac.

System requirements

The minimum system requirement is macOS Ventura 13.4. For more information, go to the Final Cut Pro Tech Specs webpage.
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...clearly Apple needs to update a few other links! :)
 
Yup haha

Im gonna try to import log iphone 15 footage on 10.6.8 and see what happens. Maybe its just a metadata thing. Im sure i can still s-curve it
 
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I continue to find myself thinking: why doesn't Apple create a brand new product that flips the script here? Instead of dealing with the very hard limitations of physics in trying to jam ever-better cameras into a skinny phone form factor, how about develop the best camera form factor they can and glom the phone functionality onto that?

No, that's not hold a camera up to an ear to make a call (buds with mic for phone calls).

No, this isn't an idea about killing the phone and replacing it with a camera. This would be a new product where the entire focus could be on maximizing the camera innovations. The whole phone + iPod + Internet device parts just needs a good-sized screen on the back.

Like photographers have for generations, this camera + phone hybrid (instead of phone + camera hybrid) hangs around the neck or shoulder on a strap instead of being a skinny brick in a pocket...

Peak-design-slide-camera-strap1.jpg

In exchange for that inconvenience, all of the skinny brick limitations would come off of maximizing the camera picture, video & sound quality... resulting in much better pictures, videos and sound.

Would I be the only person interested in such a product?
Samsung tried it with their NX range of Mirrorless APS-C cameras a few years ago - full size camera with an Android backend - where is the NX range now?....... exactly.
 
Of course, but they are running out of hardware innovation, so they have to do it with artificial software restrictions.
Why stop with the 14, surely because I can type it, they can also bring it to the 12 series phones!? I feel like it’s totally doable, though I’ve never tried doing anything like it before.

/s
 
I continue to find myself thinking: why doesn't Apple create a brand new product that flips the script here? Instead of dealing with the very hard limitations of physics in trying to jam ever-better cameras into a skinny phone form factor, how about develop the best camera form factor they can and glom the phone functionality onto that?

No, that's not hold a camera up to an ear to make a call (buds with mic for phone calls).

No, this isn't an idea about killing the phone and replacing it with a camera. This would be a new product where the entire focus could be on maximizing the camera innovations. The whole phone + iPod + Internet device parts just needs a good-sized screen on the back.

Like photographers have for generations, this camera + phone hybrid (instead of phone + camera hybrid) hangs around the neck or shoulder on a strap instead of being a skinny brick in a pocket...

Peak-design-slide-camera-strap1.jpg

In exchange for that inconvenience, all of the skinny brick limitations would come off of maximizing the camera picture, video & sound quality... resulting in much better pictures, videos and sound.

Would I be the only person interested in such a product?

iPhone 16 Studio
 
Why stop with the 14, surely because I can type it, they can also bring it to the 12 series phones!? I feel like it’s totally doable, though I’ve never tried doing anything like it before.

/s
12 totally doable. Log is actually a much less processed video mode, just something Apple has to enable for developers.

If you look at the Blackmagic video app, you can see the phone can do far more with codecs and modes than what Apple allows. The ProRes would probably be too high of a bitrate but h.264 would work. Possible would also be limited to 8 bit, but still useful.

It’s all software and cameras have been doing log for years with 10% of the iPhone processing power.

What did you think a 15% more powerful chip is really what enables every new software feature?

And yes I have developed several iOS apps..
 
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