Final Cut Pro X and Third-Party Thunderbolt Peripherals Coming Next Week?
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MCIowaRulz
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What are the file sizes?
At 3mbps it's going to be awhile
What are the file sizes?
At 3mbps it's going to be awhile
Not as yet, but it'll come soon. Check out the bottom of Apple's TB page for products soon to come.
http://www.apple.com/thunderbolt/
thedarkhorse
macrumors 6502a
If that's what you're excited about get ready for disappointment.
As for those worried about download time I wouldn't be worried, people seem to think modern internet connections can't handle large downloads for some reason. I downloaded an 8gb game in an hour on my cable internet the other day through steam. If apple keeps content separate or all "content" is just generators through motion then I wouldn't be surprised to see this under a gig.
Also still waiting to hear how Apple will handle volume licensing. A lot of smaller TV stations edit on Final Cut (like mine) but have more then 5 seats. Since it's App store only, it's a logistical thing we're going to have to figure out. Will we need 2 App store accounts to handle the 7 (soon 8) final cut workstations we use here?
No one knows yet, but I would think Apple will be smart about it by offering the content separately from the app bundle(s).
At that price, it looks like I will still buying FW800 HDD for my backup solutionsNothing on Apple's site but check out this link:
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Amazon has an entry that points to Apple's site. Follow the link and there's nothing but a placeholder is a good start
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I'm wondering that myself as we have 12 seats currently. I don't know that it will be App Store ONLY, though. At the SuperMeet, I was careful to listen for any wording like that. Yes, it will be available via the app store, but we don't know that it's the only way to buy it. I think Apple will shoot themselves in the foot if that is their only mode of purchase. If they do want that, I think they'll have to come up with an enterprise-level app store or some such thing.
Trouser Cough
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I just want a 3.5" thunderbolt dock. That'd be baller.
Trouser Cough
macrumors member
TB is probably overkill for backup use. Personally, I'd use TB only for high performance needs like scratch disks, capture hardware and XSAN connectivity. It will take a while for Joe Consumer to need that kind of performance and even longer for peripherals to come down in price.
SeattleMoose
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tarproductions
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Sounds like Lion will be Mac App Store only, why would FCPx, or any new release from Apple, be any different? Seems to me like this is they way they get customers onboard with the Mac App Store. Just my guess.
-Tim
deconstruct60
macrumors G5
Go here:
http://www.apple.com/legal/itunes/us/terms.html
do a search for this phrase: "MAC APP STORE PRODUCT USAGE RULES"
Namely, you would need just as many App Store accounts as there are seats (if 8 workstations then 8). If 8 folks shared 5 workstations you'd only need 5. However, if there are employees who have it installed on Mac Pro and their MBP then ony need to by one for that employee (the presumption is that only one of those are used at a time).
the "iTunes covers 5 computers" thing is only valid for personal/home usage, not commerce. For personal usage mac App store is any many macs as you "personally control". If own 10 then it is 10. Obviously, they are not gong to let a business follow that rule since have resources and/or need for many. The limitation varies by who is buying what in which store. It isn't uniform.
At some point Apple is going to have to fix the "stores" so that they can due volume/bulk licensing. So far it is pretty ad hoc. If they plan to fix that soon it would be better to roll that out before Lion ships. However, given Apple's SNAFU release track record it would not be surprising to see them roll it out in the middle of the Lion update maelstrom.
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iasky
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Me too!
I finally paid off my Mac II with Sony 13" Tinitron and am now ready for my next $5000 Mac work station
Show me the THUNDERPROs Steve!
I finally paid off my Mac II with Sony 13" Tinitron and am now ready for my next $5000 Mac work station
Show me the THUNDERPROs Steve!
Ingot
macrumors 6502
Too funny. But somehow true... in a sad sense...
Exactly. By definition a Pro app infers Professional Use - ergo, no "personal use" would apply. So, how are they drawing the distinction? They can't, by law, charge different prices to different businesses - exception being volume licensing. Example: I do work on the side at home and I have three Macs there. Under the current model, I should be able to buy Final Cut Pro X once and install it on all three of my Macs. But that gives me an unfair advantage over the three person, three system shop who has to buy three copies of the same software even though they are all under one roof and one admin.
I also do work for higher education and what's to become of them for their volume licensing? It used to be pretty simple - one license per station, not per user. I get the one license for all systems for personal use stuff, but not for pro apps of any kind. For that matter, what will companies do with Lion if the app store is the only route? What will the colleges do? Etc. It just gets messy with this app store modality for the enterprise. I agree, Apple is going to have to find a more enterprise-friendly licensing route. Not acting will only promote corporate-level piracy for lack of legitimate licensing. They stand to lose a lot of higher-margin profit dollars.
Sorry if this is a dumb question, but I think I've seen this idea float around on these forums.
But could they make an external casing for graphics cards and run them through Thunderbolt and you can use that to upgrade your graphics card in case you have an iMac?
I'm just curious how far reaching and fast Thunderbolt is.
Thanks
But could they make an external casing for graphics cards and run them through Thunderbolt and you can use that to upgrade your graphics card in case you have an iMac?
I'm just curious how far reaching and fast Thunderbolt is.
Thanks
I'm sooo excited!!!
I just can't wait for my new Thunderbolt external drive (aka 'Speed demon')
I've got my order in! 1TB external drive, 3 (yes 3!) Thundy ports!.
Only $1500!! (I know it's a bit expensive but HEY! your only broke once? (is that the saying )
Note: (Raid is $2500) a bit out of my range this month
I just can't wait for my new Thunderbolt external drive (aka 'Speed demon')
I've got my order in! 1TB external drive, 3 (yes 3!) Thundy ports!.
Only $1500!! (I know it's a bit expensive but HEY! your only broke once? (is that the saying
)Note: (Raid is $2500) a bit out of my range this month
ThunderBolt Slow Start
I would like to see the whole Final Cut Studio suite come out, but FCP would be a nice upgrade alone.
In regard to ThunderBolt, I have been using Caldigit USB 3.0 for Mac with WD hard drives as a temporary solution until Thunderbolt fully comes online with internal and external products. It will be at least three years before I upgrade my system, so in the meantime, it's USB 3.0.
Can there ever be a third party (Caldigit) ThunderBolt PCI card? Will PCI keep up with 10Gb/s.
I would like to see the whole Final Cut Studio suite come out, but FCP would be a nice upgrade alone.
In regard to ThunderBolt, I have been using Caldigit USB 3.0 for Mac with WD hard drives as a temporary solution until Thunderbolt fully comes online with internal and external products. It will be at least three years before I upgrade my system, so in the meantime, it's USB 3.0.
Can there ever be a third party (Caldigit) ThunderBolt PCI card? Will PCI keep up with 10Gb/s.
Nope - it's a change in the bus altogether. Your system will either handle TB or it won't. I'm sure you'll be able to interface devices, but that won't gain you the performance increase. It's like adding a PCIe expansion chassis to a PCI-x system. Sure you can adapt devices and cards, but your system can only handle what the system bus can handle.
Sorry if this is a dumb question, but I think I've seen this idea float around on these forums.
But could they make an external casing for graphics cards and run them through Thunderbolt and you can use that to upgrade your graphics card in case you have an iMac?
I'm just curious how far reaching and fast Thunderbolt is.
Thanks
You are conflating graphics computation with display bandwidth, there. The graphics card will still handle the processing of graphics. The way I read the TB documentation was that it just transports the data that the graphics card outputs. It is a bus and transport system for data and it opens the possibilities up tremendously for higher performance peripherals. Your graphics card would be a peripheral in this sense.
FWIW, there is absolutely nothing wrong with continuing to use USB 3.0. I suspect TB will be a bit slow to adopt anyway. By the time you are ready to get a new Mac, there will be a lot more available at much lower cost than currently.
Uh oh - someone's in trouble.
http://www.appleinsider.com/article...icate_recent_final_cut_pro_x_screenshots.html
http://www.appleinsider.com/article...icate_recent_final_cut_pro_x_screenshots.html
+1 and compressor. exciting times! woot!