Finally got time to install X5365's!

TheEasterBunny

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I found a pair of X5365's on eBay for $100.00 or so, and couldn't pass them up!

Tonight I put them in!

So far everything has doubled in performance, they do run warmer.

I have done a few bench marks.

Geek Bench 2 was 5601 now it's 10657

Power Fractal

was 37.004 GFlops
now 84.540 GFlops

I tried xBench and it would not run right, I may need a re-install

I did some timings on a 7z compression software. The compressions weren't really any faster (16 sec. per 1GB folder of jpegs), but now I can do more of them at a time, in the same time.

I still have a photoshop test to run but I am happy with the results. This puts my cost at almost $600.00 for this Pro, and I can live with that.

As time permits I will run more benchs and put them here.
 

mwhities

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I found a pair of X5365's on eBay for $100.00 or so, and couldn't pass them up!

Tonight I put them in!

So far everything has doubled in performance, they do run warmer.

I have done a few bench marks.

Geek Bench 2 was 5601 now it's 10657

Power Fractal

was 37.004 GFlops
now 84.540 GFlops

I tried xBench and it would not run right, I may need a re-install

I did some timings on a 7z compression software. The compressions weren't really any faster (16 sec. per 1GB folder of jpegs), but now I can do more of them at a time, in the same time.

I still have a photoshop test to run but I am happy with the results. This puts my cost at almost $600.00 for this Pro, and I can live with that.

As time permits I will run more benchs and put them here.
What did you replace? What year MP?
 

TheEasterBunny

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Sorry, sometimes I assume people know this routine with 1,1's. I have a document with the history of my Pro, it isn't complete but has most of the steps I've taken.

Original Specs:
1,1 Mac Pro (2006)
4GB RAM
Dual 5150's dual core@2.66Ghz (total 4 cores)

HDD:
2) 128GB SSD's in a RAID0 array (added upon delivery)
250GB 7200 RPM

Video Card:
NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT

Geek Bench 2 (32bit)

1st Run 5514 (Orig. Spec.)
2nd Run 5579 (RAM upgrade)
3rd Run 5587 (RAM upgrade)
4th Run 5601 (RAM upgrade)

Power Fractal

37.004 GFlops

PS CS5 test from Macrumors:
Post #1027
Link
27 seconds

Updated to:

2,1 Mac Pro (netka's, firmware updater)
12GB RAM
2) 128GB SSD's in a RAID0 array (Crucial M4's)
1) 250GB 7200 RPM (22,000 hrs) (original shipped drive)
1) 500GB 7200 RPM (45,000 hrs) (imported from wintel drive farm on network)
1) 1TB 7200 RPM (35,000 hrs) (imported from wintel drive farm on network)
1) 2TB 7200 RPM SATAIII (500 hrs) (recent purchase)

Video Card:
Nvidia GeForce GT 430

PS CS5 test from Macrumors:

20.7 seconds Shaved almost 7 seconds!!

Geek Bench 2 (32bit)
1st Run 10657

Power Fractal

84.540 GFlops

My Pro is used as a file server as well at anytime up to three other devices can be connected to it.
All tests were performed while these connections were open with file sharing running.
 
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mwhities

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Sorry, sometimes I assume people know this routine with 1,1's. I have a document with the history of my Pro, it isn't complete but has most of the steps I've taken.
As you may know (you do as you posted in my thread), I'm a complete MP newbie. :)

I'll do this upgrade sometime but, it will be way later on. Thanks for posting the specs before/after up. Very helpful.
 

TheEasterBunny

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I did some drive speed tests here are the screen shots. When I was doing the 2TB drive time machine decided it was time for a back up, so it is off by about 40 to 50 MB/s. Hovering over each tells about the drive.
The SSD is 2 drives in a RAID0
 

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TheEasterBunny

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Tesselator is right, of course.
Sorry I'm late to the party, work intervened with a trip to NYC yesterday.
Thanks for stepping in for me Tess

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Kewl! My x5355 processors get about 75GFlops on average - varying between 73 and 78GFlops.
Peak was 87 GFlops, 82 being the bottom, but 84 was a consistent median as opposed to an average.
 

TheEasterBunny

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I agree!
I'm also curious what my Mini's and my pro on a Pooch node would do!
When I ran Power Fractal, it was aware of those Macs on my network.
I set up 6 older macs (Motorola chips), one G3, and a G4 once. I didn't get anywhere near what my Pro gets! The set up was fun to do though. Even though the network then was 10Mb. Now I'm at 1Gb.
 

Tesselator

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How do you tell how many hours the drives have been running for?
They record it themselves. You can read it with a S.M.A.R.T. reader. You can see it displayed either via the information button in DiskUtility or via something like SMART Utility. SMART isn't supposedly supported over USB tho so if it's a USB drive you'll need a special reader which claims to support SMART.

Here's the Information Button's output for example:
Code:
	Name : 	ST3000DM001-1CH166 Media
	Type : 	Disk

	Partition Map Scheme : 	GUID Partition Table
	Disk Identifier : 	disk1
	Media Name : 		ST3000DM001-1CH166 Media
	Media Type : 		Generic
	Connection Bus : 	SATA
	Connection ID : 	"Bay 3"
	Device Tree : 		IODeviceTree:/PCI0@0/SATA@1F,2/PRT2@2/PMP@0
	Bay : 			"Bay 3"
	Writable : 		Yes
	Ejectable : 		No
	Location : 		Internal
	Total Capacity : 	3 TB (3,000,592,982,016 Bytes)
	Disk Number : 		1
	Partition Number : 	0
	S.M.A.R.T. Status : 	Verified
	Raw Error Rate : 	00000C6B97F0
	Spinup Time : 		000000000000
	Start/Stop Count : 	000000000026
	Retired Sectors Count: 	000000000000
	Seek Error Rate : 	000100934CBD
	Power-On Hours : 	00000000082A
	Spinup Retries : 	000000000000
	Power Cycles : 		000000000026
	Emergency Retracts: 	000000000012
	Load/Unload Cycles : 	00000000C6A2
	HDD Temperature : 	00120000001D
	Pending-Sparing Cnt: 	000000000000
	Uncorrectable Sectors: 	000000000000
	UltraDMA CRC Errors : 	000000000000
And here's what SMART Utility looks like:
 

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applegeek897

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They record it themselves. You can read it with a S.M.A.R.T. reader. You can see it displayed either via the information button in DiskUtility or via something like SMART Utility. SMART isn't supposedly supported over USB tho so if it's a USB drive you'll need a special reader which claims to support SMART.

Here's the Information Button's output for example:
Code:
	Name : 	ST3000DM001-1CH166 Media
	Type : 	Disk

	Partition Map Scheme : 	GUID Partition Table
	Disk Identifier : 	disk1
	Media Name : 		ST3000DM001-1CH166 Media
	Media Type : 		Generic
	Connection Bus : 	SATA
	Connection ID : 	"Bay 3"
	Device Tree : 		IODeviceTree:/PCI0@0/SATA@1F,2/PRT2@2/PMP@0
	Bay : 			"Bay 3"
	Writable : 		Yes
	Ejectable : 		No
	Location : 		Internal
	Total Capacity : 	3 TB (3,000,592,982,016 Bytes)
	Disk Number : 		1
	Partition Number : 	0
	S.M.A.R.T. Status : 	Verified
	Raw Error Rate : 	00000C6B97F0
	Spinup Time : 		000000000000
	Start/Stop Count : 	000000000026
	Retired Sectors Count: 	000000000000
	Seek Error Rate : 	000100934CBD
	Power-On Hours : 	00000000082A
	Spinup Retries : 	000000000000
	Power Cycles : 		000000000026
	Emergency Retracts: 	000000000012
	Load/Unload Cycles : 	00000000C6A2
	HDD Temperature : 	00120000001D
	Pending-Sparing Cnt: 	000000000000
	Uncorrectable Sectors: 	000000000000
	UltraDMA CRC Errors : 	000000000000
And here's what SMART Utility looks like:
Thanks so much that was a great help.
 

TheEasterBunny

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It is helpful to know how many hours they have on them. Somewhere between 35000 and 50000 is about all they are good for. Depending on the use of course. My 500GB is about done. It has had errors too, I managed to clear some bad blocks but I know that is temporary, that's why I got the 2TB as a replacement.
Once all the data disks are the same size, I will RAID0 them.
I don't have a need for anymore storage than about 6TB.
 

Tesselator

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It is helpful to know how many hours they have on them. Somewhere between 35000 and 50000 is about all they are good for. Depending on the use of course. My 500GB is about done. It has had errors too, I managed to clear some bad blocks but I know that is temporary, that's why I got the 2TB as a replacement.
Once all the data disks are the same size, I will RAID0 them.
I don't have a need for anymore storage than about 6TB.
I wouldn't wanna mix drive ages by more than a few weeks maybe. That's like planning a trip from California to NY and back using three new tires and one well worn one. I'd rather start out with all new tires or all of about the same age so I know what to expect.
 

CptSky

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[...]I did some timings on a 7z compression software. The compressions weren't really any faster (16 sec. per 1GB folder of jpegs), but now I can do more of them at a time, in the same time.[...]
Most archivers don't support multi-threaded compression. You only benefit from the marginal clock upgrade (2.66 to 3.00 ?). So, it's not a reliable test on multi-core or multi-processor systems.
 

TheEasterBunny

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Most archivers don't support multi-threaded compression. You only benefit from the marginal clock upgrade (2.66 to 3.00 ?). So, it's not a reliable test on multi-core or multi-processor systems.
This one does!
1 to 4 archives at a time each get %145 to %150 CPU
as the number of archives go up, they each get slightly less until all 8 cores are at %100.

That is why I chose Keka, MP aware, free download, 7z algorithm (better compression for my purposes).
 

Tesselator

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This one does!
1 to 4 archives at a time each get %145 to %150 CPU
as the number of archives go up, they each get slightly less until all 8 cores are at %100.

That is why I chose Keka, MP aware, free download, 7z algorithm (better compression for my purposes).
Ya, mine does the essentially same thing. It will compress or uncompress multiple archives actively up to the number of cores available. In my case I see up to 8 active and the rest still listed but idle until a core opens up. A single archive seems to use 1.5 to 2 cores in total.