"Find My iPhone" epic fail - how to steal an iPhone

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by CaptSaltyJack, Jun 17, 2009.

  1. CaptSaltyJack macrumors 6502

    Jun 28, 2007
    So here's how savvy thieves can steal your phone and you'll never know where it is:

    1) You lose your phone.
    2) Savvy thief finds it, goes into Mail settings into your MobileMe account, and just turns "Find My iPhone" off.

    That's right, there's no passcode verification, no prompting for your MobileMe password, nothing! Really smart, Apple.
  2. slpdLoad macrumors 6502a


    Jun 10, 2009
  3. edtorious macrumors 65816


    Aug 14, 2007
    San Diego, California
  4. sd2009 macrumors 6502

    May 30, 2008
    they cant do this if you have a passcode on your phone in the first place
  5. fishmoose macrumors 68000

    Jul 1, 2008
    Epic fail if you don't have a passcode on your phone to begin with.
  6. Nocaster macrumors regular

    Jun 10, 2009
    That is bad... Apple should immediately go back to the old way of finding a stolen iPhone until they can patch a fix!
  7. Rat-Boy macrumors 65816


    Jul 28, 2008
    Perhaps Apple thought you would be smart enough to pass code lock your phone on the lock screen? :D
  8. CaptSaltyJack thread starter macrumors 6502

    Jun 28, 2007
    True, but what if we don't want to use the pass code feature, which is inherently flawed anyway? If you set it to ask for the pass code after 4 hrs of no use, and you lose it in a cab, someone can be using your phone within 30 minutes. If you set it to ask for the pass code after 15 minutes of no use, then it's just annoying.

    I turned off the pass code feature in the hopes that Find My iPhone would take care of the "what if" scenario of me losing my phone. Guess it's not good enough.

    Apple: clue in. Please prompt for the MobileMe account password when disabling Find My iPhone.
  9. ttech10 macrumors 6502

    May 16, 2008
    This has been know for awhile.

    They really need to passcode lock anything that has to do with 'Find My iPhone'.
  10. cpnotebook80 macrumors 6502a

    Feb 4, 2007
    yes but if you didnt, then its the owners fault:rolleyes:
    some dont put the passcode on there to begin with.
  11. MaxxTraxx macrumors 6502

    Jul 2, 2008
    Inserting pass code every 5 minutes to look at a text message is not fun.
  12. dissdnt macrumors 65816


    Aug 3, 2007
    People who steal iPhone's probably have no clue how to use it.
  13. CaptSaltyJack thread starter macrumors 6502

    Jun 28, 2007
    Yes, I'd be happy with this: I set pass code lock for 4 hours. That way it's at least ON, and if someone tries to turn off "Find My iPhone," it prompts for the pass code.

    I really hope to see this in the next update. It seems like a no-brainer.
  14. sd2009 macrumors 6502

    May 30, 2008
    id be more worried that people will be accessing my emails, im, facebook, and other personal information on my phone...
    it takes no more than a second to enter your passcode.
    i dont think its a big a deal as youre making out. everybody should have a passcode on their iphone.
    but i agree they should still require the passcode for this, but its not a big deal.
  15. stupidm4n macrumors member

    Sep 29, 2008
    MobileMe helps you find your LOST iPhone

    Not Stolen
  16. masterell macrumors regular

    May 13, 2009

    This post actually made me LOL

    So stupid, but so true!
  17. Roessnakhan macrumors 68040


    Sep 16, 2007
    I don't mind taking 1-2 seconds to enter a passcode if it ensures my information is safe. Also having "wipe after 10 failed tries" helps too. But just don't let your friends mess with your phone. >_>
  18. CaptSaltyJack thread starter macrumors 6502

    Jun 28, 2007
    Another minor flaw. They say that if you send a message via FMI (Find My iPhone) and use the alert sound, it will play even if the ringer is off. True, but if the volume is cranked way down, the alert sound is super quiet. Duh...hah. Here I expected it to blare at full strength no matter what!
  19. QCassidy352 macrumors G4


    Mar 20, 2003
    Bay Area
    Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry8320/ Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/100)

    Still good for losing your iphone. And for the many theives who won't know about the feature much less how to turn it off.
  20. LoganT macrumors 68020

    Jan 9, 2007
    Shouldn't there just be a passcode to enable and disable the find my iphone setting? That seems like the logical solution.
  21. CaptSaltyJack thread starter macrumors 6502

    Jun 28, 2007
    Hmm... partially true maybe. If it's only for LOST phones, why have the remote wipe feature then?? There's some paranoia there about someone using your phone, obviously. I'd say it's for lost or stolen phones.
  22. CaptSaltyJack thread starter macrumors 6502

    Jun 28, 2007
    You're probably right. iPhone savvy people are going to be people who own one already. :)
  23. Munitalp macrumors 65816

    Jul 17, 2007
    Whell, its the owners fault then because he lost his phone AND didn't use a passcode... so he failed.
  24. BryanLyle macrumors 6502a


    Aug 2, 2005
    Yeah. It's true. You can go right in and turn it off without being prompted for anything. This has to be an oversight on Apple's part. Hopefully it's something that they will address in a future update.

    I agree. Everyone should use the passcode feature. It's such a pain though :)
  25. xraydoc macrumors demi-god


    Oct 9, 2005
    I have mine set to require a pass code after 1 hour. I figure that's a reasonable compromise between security and convenience.

    Plus, mine is set to erase contents after 10 unsuccessful pass code tries.

    Between this and the Find My Phone - Remote Erase option, its about as reasonable as it gets for security.

    Besides, if my phone is out of my immediate possession for more than an hour anyway I'd probably Remote Erase it to be on the safe side. If I subsequently find it, I can just restore from a backup. And all my email/calendar/contacts are "on the cloud" anyway, so they'll be intact regardless.

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