Finder not loading at boot up

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  1. therealpieman macrumors newbie

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    Hi,

    One of our macs refuses to start the finder when it boots, you can start applications fine from the side bar, but you see no hard disk on the desktop just the background picture. Can anyone suggest how I could go about diagnosing the problem?

    Thanks
     
  2. sickmacdoc macrumors 68020

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    Chances are that option for displaying hard drives on the Desktop has been turned off in the "General" tab of the Finder Preferences rather than the Finder actually not starting. Go to the desktop, pull down the Finder menu and select Preferences to set it.
     

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  3. therealpieman thread starter macrumors newbie

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    thanks, but unfortunately that isn't it, you can't get to the finder in any way, if you try and load it from the side bar nothing happens, if you try and quit from the open application then the finder bar doesn't apppear, if you boot in 'safe mode' the bar at the top does not appear until you load an application. It is most perplexing...

    is there anywhere I could look for error messages etc?

    thanks
     
  4. leodavinci0 macrumors 6502

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    Try manually starting Finder like it's an application. It is located in, I think, /System/Core Services. I can't say for sure, since I'm at work with no Mac to check. Let me know if it starts this way, or if you couldn't find it.

    Strange that the computer actually starts, since in Panther at least the computer would go to blue screen on startup if Finder didn't load.
     
  5. therealpieman thread starter macrumors newbie

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    thanks

    I'm not normaly a mac user how would I get to that directory or start the service do I have to use the terminal?

    thanks again.
     
  6. GGJstudios macrumors Westmere

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    Do you have Finder set to open in another Space?
    System Preferences > Exposé & Spaces > Spaces > Application Assignments

    Also, have you tried launching Finder, then looking at Activity Monitor to see if it's running? If you see it running, try doing a Force Quit and Relaunch.

    Another method of launching Finder is to click on your desktop, then press Command-Up Arrow.
     
  7. therealpieman thread starter macrumors newbie

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    I only appear to have Desktop & Expose on this mac ( i think it's 10.4 but can't check)

    I can't see a way of opening the activity monitor, but if I do a force quit the finder does not appear in the list of running programs.

    So I still can't seem to get the finder started, thanks for your help, anymore ideas?
     
  8. GGJstudios macrumors Westmere

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    It sounds like you're having trouble understanding how to launch applications and perform some very simple operations on your computer. Launching Finder or Activity Monitor are very basic functions, as is checking your Mac OS version. Your best bet might be to call AppleCare for some phone support, or take your Mac to an Apple Store and let a Genius show you around the Mac and show you how to launch applications.
    Very close. It's Macintosh HD/System/Library/CoreServices/Finder.app
     
  9. therealpieman thread starter macrumors newbie

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    thats not the problem, as I don't have access to the finder I can only launch the recent applications, I can launch the activity monitor on other macs but as the finder won't launch I can't go to utilities or applications in the finder menu on this particular mac.
     
  10. GGJstudios macrumors Westmere

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    So you're saying Spotlight doesn't work, either?
     
  11. therealpieman thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Spotlight does work (I didn't think of that as I don't use macs) and activity monitor doesn't show finder as running after I try and start it.


    Any folder that try and open via spotlight doesn't open, no errors.

    It just appears that for what ever reason the finder will not start. Are there any logs that should be produced from failed process startups?

    thanks
     
  12. GGJstudios macrumors Westmere

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    So when you search for and find Activity Monitor in Spotlight, if you Command-click on it, it doesn't open a Finder window?
     
  13. therealpieman thread starter macrumors newbie

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  14. GGJstudios macrumors Westmere

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    You may want to try repairing your HD and permissions, via Disk Utility, which you can launch from Spotlight
     
  15. therealpieman thread starter macrumors newbie

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    thanks for your help.

    I have repaired the HD (nothing was found) and the permisions (a lot were changed) however the finder is still no where to be seen...
     
  16. GGJstudios macrumors Westmere

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    You may want to reinstall/repair your Mac OS X installation, using the original disc that came with your Mac.
     
  17. therealpieman thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Thanks for your help, I'll do that next. Hopefuly that will fix this odd problem.
     

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