Fingerprint Scanners on iPhone 5s and Galaxy S5 Compared in New Video

[ghost of jobs]

I'm not saying that Touch ID fade doesn't exist but I haven't had it happen too me. I also have a launch day 5s. Accuracy is a different story , my iPhone wasn't always able to read my fingerprints and when it did normally it would cause strange glitches like audio skipping or repeating. 7.1 fixed that now it's accurate all of the time. If your Touch ID has a problem you should probably take it to Apple. As for the S5 anything copied from Apple is generally illy implemented.

Could you expand on what else is copied?.. for those of us new to the game..... After a quick glance the pull down notification menu looks strangely like the iPhone one, plus the bit where you can turn things on and off looks like command centre.. the swines.... Is there anything else..

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Samsung need a patent just to put a fingerprint sensor on a smartphone?

Who was the first one to do a fingerprint sensor on smartphone?

A quick Google search suggests that Motorola was the first in 2010.

 

[kdarling]

There is no "secure enclave" on the Exynos or anything remotely similar to it.

According to this press release, there is:

"Munich, May 4, 2012 – Giesecke & Devrient (G&D) today announced that its MobiCore security platform will be integrated in Samsung GALAXY S III smartphones distributed in Europe.

Thanks to MobiCore, the NFC-capable smartphone from Samsung will be the first mobile device to boast a protected area on its application processor in which security-sensitive applications can be securely run and downloaded dynamically.

The MobiCore platform will provide a secure execution environment for mobile payments authentication, emails or corporate VPN access."

with more details in this article:

Samsung Galaxy S3 may be the first smartphone with full ARM TrustZone support for enabling 100% security in everything online - ARMDevices.net

As I noted, it is used to implement the security in the Knox kernel.

That's my suspicion as well. I'll admit I was quite surprised to find out how well TouchID worked for my M-i-L, who barely has *any* distinguishable prints. (A 'feature' of playing guitar for 50 years.) She can't make fingerprints the old fashioned way (ink pad & paper), but TouchID works for her.

Yep, guitar players, bricklayers, and office paper workers often have almost no visible surface ridges.

However, RF sensors read the ridge bases that still exist underneath.

 

[tshrimp]

Will get no phone with a finger print scanner. Done with iPhone, and no Galaxy for me.

 

[JoeG4]

I don't get the crying about the specs, the Cyclone platform the iPhone uses has already been given great reviews and will probably hold up very well, even despite the low clock speed and small amount of memory. I mean, the only downside of the iPhone is that it has 1gb of memory when most high end phones have 2+ now.

Samsung's S5 is really stupid though. That swipe-down action doesn't make any sense, if all else it should've been swipe sideways (either direction) or using a hand scanner or something.

Or nothing.

 

[afsnyder]

Mine stops working after a few days also. I've given upon it.

Since 7.1? 7.1 fixes the fading issue. And that sounds like a fading issue... but correct me if i'm wrong.

 

[Cooee!]

Touch ID is way better

 

[Max(IT)]

It does work.

Probably because only Apple fans don't care about "specs", unless it's "thinner" (volume), or "lighter" (weight), smaller/more portable (again, volume), or made of "alumeenium" (material choice), or "has a fingerprint sensor" (security feature), or "comes in 50 gaudy colors" (appearance), or "it's 64bit processing" (speed), or "it's the most innovative", or...oh wait... EVERYONE cares about specs.

Apple fans just care more about different specs. Even Apple lists their tech specs on their site for a reason.

Specs differentiate products, and are used by customers to make decisions based on the individual's need and preference.

With phones, I went with Sammy's specs because they were a better fit for me than Apple's.

With PCs, I went with Apple for the same reason.

To complain about (paying attention to) specs is to complain about choice. I see a lot of that here.

Not at all.
Apple advertises "features", Samsung advertises "technical specs".
In the very first page of Galaxy s4 (but it is the same for the Note 3) you can read about a quad core and 1.9 Ghz, while on Apple website you can't even know if it is a dual core, a single core or a 12-core, not even speak about frequencies.
64-bits are advertised because they are an innovation (and a marketing bonus so far).
Apple doesn't want their customers to choose looking at specs. Typical Apple user, out of this forum, doesn't even know about specs. Apple want their customers to choose thinking about user experience.

And this fingerprints scanner, to return to topic, is a quite bold demonstration of how different their philosophy is: apple's implementation is "we have TouchId and it is very useful to make your experience easier", while Samsung 's implementation is "we have it ..... well, we have it".

 

[Max(IT)]

I think it would be redundant.

Apple should copy the Samsung (hehehe) and release the pair:

- 6S - sized like the iPhone 5S or S3/S4/S5 Mini. 4-4.3" screen, depending on the bezel. Fits any pocket and any hand.

- 6S "Big" - sized like S3/S4/S5. ~5-5.5" screen, depending on the bezel. Fits some pockets and average/larger hand. Normally carried in the breast pocket or in the bag.

The S3/S4/S5 size is very well received in the market. I do not think that Apple would gain anything by redundantly experimenting. A small jump to 4.5-4.7" would provide a minor gain in screen size, but aggravation to users like me, who prefer the dimensions of the current iPhones or the Samsung Minis.

A well designed (and Apple surely can do that) 4.5" iPhone 6 could still be very pocketable and 0.5" is a very noticeable gain.
I really hope for a double solution: 4.5" and a 5.5" in the Apple's flavor ...

 

[thekeyring]

... As usual, I'd add.

Samsung always is about a "specs list longer than your".
It is a marketing strategy that works.

Yep. I wasn't trying to deny that.

 

[candle]

new iPhone supposed to be larger device... both will require two hands....

 

[Max(IT)]

new iPhone supposed to be larger device... both will require two hands....

We don't know until we will see it.

 

[sixrom]

Well, you've got to use both hands with a screen that big anyway, so...

I just bought a Galaxy S5 to see how I liked it as compared to my iPhone 5s. Whether it's an iPhone or Android, my preferred way to hold the phone while messaging or writing email etc is to hold the phone in the palm of my left hand and type with my right hand.

Regarding finger print sensors I found the S5 just as fast & easy as my iPhone. However I have excellent, accurate manual dexterity. I can see where some who might rush while doing the initial finger print scan setup might be frustrated but they probably get frustrated in other situations as well.

Once setup both these systems work just fine.

 

[Am3r1ca16]

Touch ID has improved a lot in iOS 7.1

 

[Tim098]

I personally feel like touch id scanners on mobile devices are in the beta phase. Apple and samsung both should have waited another year to add it.

I honestly dont see the need for a fingerprint scanner on any Android device because there are multiple security options(password and screen pattern) unlike ios that had limited options.

I don't see myself using this fingerprint scanner if I decide to get an s5.

That's what most people say until they actually have a phone with the fingerprint scanner. A couple of my friends said the same thing when they got their 5S's, and one even refused to set it up. But after they finally started using it, now they can't live without it. I lend them my phone and they rest their thumb on the home button for a couple of seconds before realising I don't have a fingerprint scanner on my iPhone 5.

 

[tkwolf]

Well, you've got to use both hands with a screen that big anyway, so...

Nothing wrong with that, I use two hands on my iPhone 5 most of the time.

 

[SSonnentag]

I gave Apple a chance, now it's Samsung's turn...

My issue with the iPhons 5s' scanner is that it NEVER works after I've washed my hands. It NEVER works after I've been working outside and my hands are dry. It NEVER works if my hands are cold. It ONLY works if my finger tips are warm, unmarred, and slightly oily (not just washed).

I'm hoping the Galaxy S5 will be more useable in real world situations. Plus, I'm just sick of waiting for Apple to produce a phone with a screen large enough for my aging eyes to use.

Great video, by the way, even it it is obvious which phone you prefer.