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But you can't prove it either than NSA doesn't have backdoor access to your fingerprint. We'd just have to believe Tim's word for it and they already lied about it once in the past. You also can't prove the fingerprint reader isn't hackable.

So the safest option is not to use fingerprint scanners.

Most people have their fingerprints in government databases anyway, they wouldn't want to go through the trouble to get them off of iPhones when they can get them easier elsewhere if they need/want them.
 
Spoken like someone who truly doesn't get it.
Good, short description of your own posts.

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Do you have a clean room?
I've three. All for Apple fanboys.

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Go back to watching action movies please.
Good idea. Thanks!

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Nothing you've posted so far ... is even remotely factually accurate.
Say that to Edward Snowden!

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And for all the conspiracy theorists out there, get a life.
I'm sure Edward Snowden is a conspiracy theorist. :rolleyes:

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That would never work.
It worked in the past. Why not now?
 
If the NSA wants your fingerprints, all they need to do is send a local yokel to dust ANYTHING you've touched. Your desktop/laptop keyboard, your car door, the front doorknob to where you live... the entire surface of your locked phone.

Making Apple build fingerprint scanners into their phones is very much the hard way to do this.

And you still haven't answered the fundamental question: what can the NSA do with your fingerprint that they can't already do now?

Buy a bunch of music on iTunes using my account :(
 
Reports are showing that you must have a passcode in order to use Touch ID, and after a certain number of unsuccessful attempts at authenticating by fingerprint, you can still unlock the phone by passcode. If this is true, then the fingerprinting is only for convenience sake (which would still be nice). But I'm a little disappointed that it isn't more secure.

Anybody know anything to the contrary? Or is this true?

Yes, it's for convenience, not greater security. The point is to be able to unlock your phone with a touch. It's quite obvious that it would have to offer an opportunity to enter a passcode in case of failure, which automatically means it doesn't offer greater security since it can be totally bypassed.
 
Uh...now you can use a complex alphanumeric passcode and only have to use it sparingly.

This provides a huge leap in security in my opinion.

I've always hated using a simple passcode, but the a$$pain of a complex code outweighed my desire to use one.

I'm excited for this new feature!
 
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