Apple TV FireCore aTV Flash (black) .. your opinion

HellDiverUK

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Build? What build?

Run the Jailbreak (greenp0ision in my case), reboot, plug in to TV, reboot again, job done. XBMC is installed, NitoTV is installed. Doesn't take any longer than 15 minutes, and that was my first JB.

aTV Flash has got to work in a similar way, you'll still have to plug it in to the computer, so all you're doing is paying $30 for a slightly different looking program to do the JB.
 

NiklasK

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Isnt the original poster refering to the media player app-thingy thats installed also? It doesnt just do a jailbreak from what I understand. It looks like a native ATV interface with the functionality to playback mkv xvid and more...
 

hafr

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Basically, the only difference between doing it yourself for free and paying for it is that if you pay for it, you can stay in the native interface, otherwise you need to go into XBMC or Plex.

Since I prefer the XBMC interface over the ATV2 one, the choice was very easy ;) But if you like the native interface and want to keep it simple, it might be worth it.
 

KandyKane

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Run the Jailbreak (greenp0ision in my case), reboot, plug in to TV, reboot again, job done. XBMC is installed, NitoTV is installed. Doesn't take any longer than 15 minutes, and that was my first JB.

aTV Flash has got to work in a similar way, you'll still have to plug it in to the computer, so all you're doing is paying $30 for a slightly different looking program to do the JB.
My JB (Seasonpass) didn't put XBMC or NitoTV on my AppleTV??? I don't think anything else was available with the iOS version I was running at the time and I can't be bothered redoing it to get it.

TBH I didn't do that much research into it, so I probably could have done it for free, but this stuff isn't second nature to me, and I would have to spend hours reading tutorials etc.

With the aTV Flash, you only have to plug it in while you're jail breaking, then the flash is done over WiFi, and you only have to plug it in if you reboot the aTV and have a tethered JB- mine is, but I haven't needed to plug it in yet.
It's easy, it has CouchSurfer so I can live stream MotoGP, it can read all my external HD movies, it's simple, I didn't have to google different coding and figure out why xyz wasn't working.

Basically if you're a technology dumbarse, but want the extra stuff Apple won't let you have, and are time poor, pay the $30.
If you understands 1's and 0's and all that jazz and know where the files and all that crap goes, then you should be able upload and plug whatever you want into wherever you want for free!


I have enough headaches when I JB my iPhone and iPad lol. It's nice to have a simple option.
 

CHRONiC YOUTH

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Yea i still don't get why ppl would waste 30 on something you can do for free.. Jbing with season pass is basic as fuhhhh and sshing and copying and pasting code from wiki isn't much more difficult but i guess to each his own
 

whooleytoo

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It's being promoted today on MacUpdate at 33% off, so I was about to start a similar thread asking if it's worth it. 14 euros isn't a huge amount.

The only feature I'd like (apart from 1080p of course) would be the support for other video formats; though it'd be nice if it supports the native UI. The built-in web-browser might be ok, but I doubt I'd use it much.

By comparison, how do Plex/XBMC on ATV work with the Remote app, if at all?
 

treichert

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Basically, the only difference between doing it yourself for free and paying for it is that if you pay for it, you can stay in the native interface, otherwise you need to go into XBMC or Plex.

Since I prefer the XBMC interface over the ATV2 one, the choice was very easy ;) But if you like the native interface and want to keep it simple, it might be worth it.

Avoiding the butt-ugly XBMC and using FireCores MediaPlayer which looks exactly like the native interface alone is worth the 30 bucks.

Add the Backup feature, CouchSurf and Last.FM support and I'm a very happy camper. :cool:
 

5thSymphony

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By comparison, how do Plex/XBMC on ATV work with the Remote app, if at all?
Remote app is ok.. but if you invest a bit more, you go grab the Rowmote Pro app for iOS. this app is sick! mouse-like support for use in couchsurfer, full keyboard support for fast typing anywhere... a must. You only need to install the Rowmote software within Nito.

Just wondering if they got finally the way to do a untethered jailbreak for the newest ATV OS update.
 

BadaBing!!

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Isnt the original poster refering to the media player app-thingy thats installed also? It doesnt just do a jailbreak from what I understand. It looks like a native ATV interface with the functionality to playback mkv xvid and more...
I'm the OP. Yes, I'm talking about the whole solution. I don't mind doing it by myself but since it's only $20 today, I was tempted. Looks nice and doesn't require a lot of work.
I'm on iOS5 though so I'd have to wait until it's jailbreakable.
 

deafgoose

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Oct 20, 2011
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I purchased it when it was in beta and just updated my appletv with the final version.

I am VERY happy with the ease of installation and I have no problem supporting a company that dedicates themselves to jail-breaking. :)

The media player interface feels like it was made by Apple. I can browse the HD on all my computers on the network and play movies downloaded from the net.
 

BadaBing!!

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May 16, 2010
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I purchased it when it was in beta and just updated my appletv with the final version.

I am VERY happy with the ease of installation and I have no problem supporting a company that dedicates themselves to jail-breaking. :)

The media player interface feels like it was made by Apple. I can browse the HD on all my computers on the network and play movies downloaded from the net.
Thanks for the info. Which iOS version does your AppleTV runs ?
 

deafgoose

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Oct 20, 2011
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Thanks for the info. Which iOS version does your AppleTV runs ?
4.4.2

I do a tethered boot but I never unplug the power to my appletv so its not an issue for me. You can power it off with the remote and power it back up and no tethered boot is required.
 

hafr

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Avoiding the butt-ugly XBMC and using FireCores MediaPlayer which looks exactly like the native interface alone is worth the 30 bucks.

Add the Backup feature, CouchSurf and Last.FM support and I'm a very happy camper. :cool:
XBMC is ugly? Which skin? Have you tried all of them?
 

whooleytoo

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Remote app is ok.. but if you invest a bit more, you go grab the Rowmote Pro app for iOS. this app is sick! mouse-like support for use in couchsurfer, full keyboard support for fast typing anywhere... a must. You only need to install the Rowmote software within Nito.

Just wondering if they got finally the way to do a untethered jailbreak for the newest ATV OS update.
Thanks, good to know!
 

fabian9

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I think I tried about five, they were all ugly, bulky and not at all sleek.

In comparison Flash MediaPlayer is way easier to use, faster and looks just like the native interface.
Couldn't agree more. While I like some of the functionality that XBMC comes with, I hate how it is not integrated with the existing :apple:TV user interface.

MediaPlayer alone is worth $20 for me, being able to access all my NAS data (movies, tv shows and music) through a native-looking user interface that doesn't stop me using any of the existing :apple:TV features? Yes, please!
 

lexar

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I tried firecore and I found the ease, responsiveness, and integration with ATV way better then XBMC.
the movie player I find much better then XBMC. Its smoother, feels more responsive and less fussy on the setup and configurations.
The picture viewer is good too if you dont want to use the native ATV one or feel like browsing pictures by folder rather then iphoto layout.
The music player has some cool features such as slide show of the artist currently playing.

All in all unless i want XBMC addon channels installed or Navi-X or Icefilms I don't even go to XBMC any more.
If firecore can add XBMC channels in the future and Navi-X it would be an all around superior solution from a useability and integration to ATV point of view.
Of course XBMC is great for hackers and people that really want to customize their look and feel.
 

Alpine Bruce

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Dec 21, 2009
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How do you get rid of the skins!

Everything worked fine for me - but I hate the skins - they are so distracting. How do you get rid of them? I'm super busy or I would read the docs - can anyone get me started?

Thanks!

Bruce Schweitzer
Alpine, Wy.
 

hafr

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I think I tried about five, they were all ugly, bulky and not at all sleek.

In comparison Flash MediaPlayer is way easier to use, faster and looks just like the native interface.
I think the native interface of ATV2 is nothing but a piece of crap. But to each his own, I guess...
 
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