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Firefox 3.5 RC2 out now!

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It's pretty slow on the launch. I used it for a couple of mins then I quit it. When I launched it again after about 45 mins or so, it would start bouncing in the dock for like 10-15 secs till it finally opened again. WTF? It's not like I opened it anew after a restart of the system. It should have opened right away since I had once launched it before today.

Until they improve that, I'll be forced to stick with Safari (to which I've recently switched from FF).
 
How very peculiar.

Firefox 3.5 RC2 launches in about 14 seconds on my iMac G4. So I'm confused why Firefox takes that long to launch on your; much higher spec Mac :confused:
 
I just restarted my Mac and tried Safari and FF for comparison. Safari opened and displayed my home page in 10 secs. Right after that I launched FF and it took 23 secs to do the exact same thing I performed on Safari earlier. Sh*tty.
 
I've used the FF performance hacks, so the screen is drawing the first page almost as fast as the window opens.

Hated the pre-hack, where the darn thing seemed soo laggy.
 
I'm using the latest RC and sometimes it launches after one or two bounces, sometimes it takes 20. Has anyone found a fix for this?
 
Seems alright here (first version of 3.5 I've run), but I've also culled a lot of extensions I've been running. I realized there were A LOT I outgrew/duplicated so I needed to clean that up. Seems alright, though, on my baseline 2006 MB.

I don't have "bouncing icon" on, but it opened in about 5 seconds just now. Not bad.

One more thing: why won't Cmd+W close the window when there are no tabs left open? Is that new?
 
Just downloaded it. The two-finger scrolling seems a lot better, working like Safari now. The three-finger back/forward works too. [Borat] IS NICE!! [/Borat]
 
jon08 said:
I just restarted my Mac and tried Safari and FF for comparison. Safari opened and displayed my home page in 10 secs. Right after that I launched FF and it took 23 secs to do the exact same thing I performed on Safari earlier. Sh*tty.
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find another guy who close and open browsers just for fun, rather than surfing. Not to mention firefox uses much less memory for the long run, more or less reduce the necessity of restarting it.

safari is partially integrated into the system, of course it needs less more system allocation to start, what do you expect? IE open faster than any other browser on windows, how happy are you with that?

yg17 said:
I'm using the latest RC and sometimes it launches after one or two bounces, sometimes it takes 20. Has anyone found a fix for this?
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It really depends on the situation of the system at the time, but if the problem exist alot with the warm start, you might want to use a new profile to diagnose further, keep your old profile to fall back tho.
 
clevin said:
find another guy who close and open browsers just for fun, rather than surfing. Not to mention firefox uses much less memory for the long run, more or less reduce the necessity of restarting it.

safari is partially integrated into the system, of course it needs less more system allocation to start, what do you expect? IE open faster than any other browser on windows, how happy are you with that?
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Yeah aight. You're talking as though FF wasn't a memory hog. Puhlease. It might eat up slightly less mem resources than Safari does, but still gets up to 300-400 MB after two hours or so of use.

And FYI, I don't close and open browsers just for fun, rather than having been forced to restart my system either due to a) wanting to play a PC game, so I had to switch to Bootcamp b) certain updates requiring a restart, and as a result had to launch browsers from scratch. Obviously I find it frustrating to be having to wait for Mr. Bulky, Mr. Bouncy Firefox take its 14-16 bounces (or 20-23 secs if you will) to open itself and furthermore being laggy, unresponsive that it can be at times.

I had been a long-time FF user until recently, when I finally decided that enough was enough, even though I love FF's interface, add-ons and functionality. But for the lightness and speed reasons I just decided to switch to Safari. And yeah, taking up 300 MB VS. 400 MB of RAM or whatever doesn't make a difference to me on a 4GB RAM MBP.
 
jon08 said:
Yeah aight. You're talking as though FF wasn't a memory hog. Puhlease. It might eat up slightly less mem resources than Safari does, but still gets up to 300-400 MB after two hours or so of use.
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unless you are talking about firefox 2, your statement is not supported by all tests run by all parties with some level of name recognitions.

Its not 300 vs 400MB

its 150 vs 400MB or 200 vs 600MB

and thats only memory. Users found themselves losing up to 6G HDD space because safari 4 beta, and there is a question that safari 4 might not fix that in final neither.

I have no problem whatsoever about which browser whoever choose to use.

But I do always respond, firefox has its weaknesses on mac, system integration is a big one, for whoever think its important. But to make suggestions, like somebody above did, to just "use safari", does annoy me, what if I goto every safari problem thread and suggest "just use firefox"? Its ridiculous and absurd.

If that happens, sorry I have to throw out a facts based arguments, I have a laundry list of what firefox does far better than safari. I m glad to share them with whoever want to compare.
 
clevin said:
unless you are talking about firefox 2, your statement is not supported by all tests run by all parties with some level of name recognitions.

Its not 300 vs 400MB

its 150 vs 400MB or 200 vs 600MB

and thats only memory. Users found themselves losing 6G HDD space because safari 4 beta, and there is a question that safari 4 might not fix that in final neither.
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No, I was talking about Firefox 3.5 (well not RC2, but I think it was either RC1 or one before that). I have already witnessed it take up 350-400 MB of memory.

Btw, I don't know how those people "lost" 6GB disk space. And besides, that was Safari 4 Beta, as you said. The point is, although I'd love to go back to FF, yet it simply keeps preventing me from wanting to. Thus, I rather stay with Safari.

clevin said:
But I do always respond, firefox has its weaknesses on mac, system integration is a big one, for whoever think its important. But to make suggestions, like somebody above did, to just "use safari", does annoy me, what if I goto every safari problem thread and suggest "just use firefox"? Its ridiculous and absurd.

If that happens, sorry I have to throw out a facts based arguments, I have a laundry list of what firefox does far better than safari. I m glad to share them with whoever want to compare.
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Well, I totally agree with you on this one. Such posts are unnecessary and pretty stupid. It wasn't me who made one of those posts tho. I was simply expressing my opinion about the latest FF update, which still hasn't pleased my needs - system integration still being quite of an issue.
 
jon08 said:
No, I was talking about Firefox 3.5 (well not RC2, but I think it was either RC1 or one before that). I have already witnessed it take up 350-400 MB of memory.

Btw, I don't know how those people "lost" 6GB disk space. And besides, that was Safari 4 Beta, as you said. The point is, although I'd love to go back to FF, yet it simply keeps preventing me from wanting to. Thus, I rather stay with Safari.
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if you are a long time firefox user, its likely that the profile is cluttered or partially corrupted through all the upgrade, over the years firefox has undergone quite a few restructure of the profile to improve the security and stability, unfortunately, sometimes that may cause problems.

but even without above mentioned scenario, if you still have it and willing to give firefox a try, the best thing to do is to remove the old profile, which is located at ~/Library/Application Support/Firefox ("~" means your username)

I don't know if you still have anything in the firefox profile you want to preserve, if you do, then you should just rename that folder rather than delete it. if you find new profile indeed solve the problem, then you can export passwords, and install addons to the new profile.
Well, I totally agree with you on this one. Such posts are unnecessary and pretty stupid. It wasn't me who made one of those posts tho. I was simply expressing my opinion about the latest FF update, which still hasn't pleased my needs - system integration still being quite of an issue.
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I understand that. I do want to apologize for any bad feeling my old post might have caused. I was just totally p*ssed with that single line post. I guess I need some escape! thankfully, Transformer 2 is coming right up :)
 
clevin said:
if you are a long time firefox user, its likely that the profile is cluttered or partially corrupted through all the upgrade, over the years firefox has undergone quite a few restructure of the profile to improve the security and stability, unfortunately, sometimes that may cause problems.

but even without above mentioned scenario, if you still have it and willing to give firefox a try, the best thing to do is to remove the old profile, which is located at ~/Library/Application Support/Firefox ("~" means your username)
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Perhaps I'll just make a clean install of FF and see if that fixes anything. (I assume that will remove my old profile, too?)
 
jon08 said:
I just restarted my Mac and tried Safari and FF for comparison. Safari opened and displayed my home page in 10 secs. Right after that I launched FF and it took 23 secs to do the exact same thing I performed on Safari earlier. Sh*tty.
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Even on my iBook G4 Firefox doesn't take 23 seconds to load.
 
If I am only opening 1 tab it takes about 15 seconds. More than one tab and ofc it gets longer.
 
I just installed it anew. On the first launch (after restart) it opened in 8 secs. How nice is that! Now we shall see what happens after a couple of add-ons have been installed + bookmarks imported...
 
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