Firefox crashing on Youtube live stream video. Other browser options?

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  1. serr, Jan 22, 2019
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    serr macrumors regular

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    Firefox must not be keeping up with something new or altered from Youtube because it crashes on live stream video constantly. Not the whole app, just the video player. Relaunching Firefox does not help. You can start the video again every time (hit refresh) but it will crash again in a few minutes. This has been going on for about a month. Firefox is current. Only browser add-on is adblock. Only crashes on live stream video. Normal Youtube videos play without issue.

    I actually opened Safari for the first time in maybe 10 years out of frustration. Safari plays live stream Youtube just fine. I was almost going to switch except it turns out Safari is incredibly slow and pokey! Lags opening any webpage vs Firefox.

    Not a computer resource issue. Plenty of headroom in CPU, ram, drive space and performance, and so forth. Using a stupidly overpowered machine for just internet browsing. Everything else about Firefox is great. Snappy. Puts Safari to shame. Except for not supporting whatever Youtube altered with their live stream video. (I'm assuming that's what happened anyway.)

    OSX 10.13.6
    Using a genuine Jobs era MacBook Pro (One of the flagship 2011 quad i7 machines. Not the new disposable design flawed crap.)

    I can use Safari as my live stream viewer while Firefox is still open and a half dozen other apps running and still have headroom to spare. Not the worst I suppose.

    Anyone know what's up with this?
    Browser recommendations? (Serious suggestions only - that means don't suggest Chrome please! Not down with the call home every 20 minutes feature from the hidden app they install.)

    Safari actually made an initial good impression with improved gesture support. I think that's why I went to Firefox about 10 years ago. They oddly had gesture support before Safari. The pinch zoom is slick in Safari now! But beyond that it's just SO pokey slow from what I'm used to with Firefox in general it would be impossible to downgrade that much.
     
  2. Kraizelburg macrumors member

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    I use Firefox in my mac and my PC and I don't have such problem, have you tried to reinstall it, maybe some naughty extension.
    In my case I only use uBlock Origin and bitwarden so far so good, quantum engine is amazing!
     
  3. serr thread starter macrumors regular

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    Thanks for that Kraizelburg. I'll try uBlock instead of Adblock and report back. That's the only extension I have installed so it sounds like you're on to something.
     
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  5. serr thread starter macrumors regular

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    Nope, that wasn't the problem. Youtube still crashing on some live stream video.
    The error message:
    "An error occurred. Please try again later. (Playback ID: DAnut2-_Rnkx_X_8)"
    The background under this message is dark gray with a gif or something mimicking analog TV "snow".

    It turns out not every live stream. The one that crashes (that I know about) is The Young Turks. I tried a couple others that worked fine. Safari works with no problem and I still have the adblock extension installed to Safari too.

    I suppose I need to determine the video codec used for the live stream or some such?

    What should I be looking for as far as the type of video codec used and that business? I'm an audio guy but kind of a luddite with video formats.
     
  6. Kraizelburg macrumors member

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    Hi, I just tried to playback some live streamings and they work as expected. Maybe it's a problem of that particularly stream.
     
  7. serr thread starter macrumors regular

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    uBlock Origin 1.17.4 is what I installed FYI

    Do you know what to hunt for as far as the video format they're using and suspect codecs and so forth?

    Again, Safari is flawless playing said live stream. No performance issues on the system.

    Try the Young Turks live stream this afternoon if you have time and if that isn't something that offends you. (5pm C) That's the one that's doing this. It's actually the only one that I know of causing trouble in Firefox for me.
     
  8. Kraizelburg, Jan 24, 2019
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    Where did u find that version of ublock origin? forget it i was thinking is safari version not firefox
     
  9. serr thread starter macrumors regular

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    I went to Mozilla's add-on page.

    Safari is still running adblock plus.
     
  10. serr thread starter macrumors regular

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    I think the Young Turks live stream is HTML5.

    I'll have to try to see what the ones that work in Firefox are...
    (Probably H264 right?)

    I'm still a video luddite though so guidance would be welcome regarding this!
     
  11. serr thread starter macrumors regular

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    Downloaded the Firefox update (v65) in hopes this would be fixed.
    The live stream videos in question now open in 720p (just like Safari) but now it crashes in seconds!

    Got to be kidding!

    So you really have to use Safari as a live stream player for select Youtube videos.
    What the hell is going on with this?

    I'm still not sure what telltale about the video codec or format to look for here. I only know of one live stream video that I've run across that has this issue so far too.
     

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