firefox/thunderbird on iphone 3G

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by brisweeney, Jun 26, 2008.

  1. brisweeney macrumors regular

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    is there any way to get firefox and thunderbird on your iPhone instead of using safari and mail. i HATE those apps on my macbook, and certainly dont want to use them on my new iPhone.

    cheers!
     
  2. clevin macrumors G3

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    no. apple doesn't allow it, its monopoly, my friend:)
     
  3. Scooterman1 macrumors 6502a

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    At least we'd be able to get a Flash Plug-In with Firefox.
     
  4. The General macrumors 601

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    If Mozilla decides to port Firefox and Thunderbird to the iPhone, then there you go, you'll see them in the AppStore. If not, then you'll have to use Safari and Mail.

    The Flash plug-in that Firefox uses is the exact same one that Safari uses. Adobe would still have to write the Flash plugin for the iPhone.

    The browser doesn't write the plugin, Adobe does.
     
  5. TonyHoyle macrumors 6502a

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    Why would that be? It's no more likely than flash plugin for Safari. Adobe would have to port it and abide by apple's rules to get it on the appstore.

    Anyway the SDK rules specifically prohibit apps which load and run external code.. that means any browser ported to the iphone would not be able to run plugins *at all*.
     
  6. The General macrumors 601

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    omg I didn't know that. That is ***king weaksauce.
     
  7. waterskier2007 macrumors 68000

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    and apple can prohibit any application. im assuming they wouldnt want other browsers because they always say that safari is the best browser, why would they allow firefox on the iphone, thats just stupid
     
  8. clevin macrumors G3

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    mozilla fennec will probably offers beta or final at end of this year and start of 09. for WM and some Linux based system. We will see how it goes from there.

    Apple won't opened up the iPhone unless it has to, so far, It doesn't seem to feel any necessity. SDK is a start, but still a lot of restrictions... well, its their own phone, like I said, its monopoly, my friend :)
     
  9. brisweeney thread starter macrumors regular

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    thanks for the responses,i fricken hate mail as an app :( i can live with safari, but mail....ugh!

    oh well, better start getting used to it in 14 days!
     
  10. waterskier2007 macrumors 68000

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    what is so wrong with mail. plus, after 2.0 you will be able to bulk delete and move, and you will be able to save photos you get as attachments right to your photo library
     
  11. Scooterman1 macrumors 6502a

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    I realize this, BUT they have a small PLUG-IN that works with Mozilla Firefox without the full Adobe Flash installed. I didn't realize this either until I couldn't get the Plug-in to install automatically OR manually. When I uninstalled everything, it loaded the small one for Firefox. I then reinstalled the Full version. Or, maybe I just didn't understand what I was looking at.
     
  12. goosnarrggh macrumors 68000

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    Nope, Firefox by itself doesn't have any independent knowledge of how to display Flash content. It always has to pass all Flash content through a plug-in.

    It does offer a plugin finder service, which, depending on your platform, may include a number of open-source attempts to replace the Flash player, such as GNU's Gnash in addition to (or in place of) Adobe's Flash Player. The Adobe Flash Player which you obtain through Firefox's plugin finder is smaller than the download you'd obtain directly from Adobe because Adobe's direct download, in addition to the Mozilla-type plugin (whose plugin infrastructure is used by most browsers), can also include a standalone player and (on Windows) an ActiveX-based plugin for Internet Explorer.

    Adobe's Flash Player, of course, exists independently of the full-fledged product named "Adobe Flash", which is actually Adobe's main Flash authoring tool.
     
  13. 7on macrumors 601

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    I thought I heard a rumor than Firefox would be replacing it's gekko engine with webkit.
     
  14. clevin macrumors G3

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    no, it was an proposal by a allpeers' developer. But there was no serious discussion about that. IMHO. webkit at current stage can't do what firefox needs to do. and it would take too much changes in webkit (big procedure problem with apple I feel headache thinking about it) with no promising success.
     
  15. earnjam macrumors 6502a

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    Is there anything in the SDK guidelines that says you can't build a browser?
     
  16. clevin macrumors G3

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    no, but you can't build a browser with non-webkit engine. at least thats how people read it.
     
  17. earnjam macrumors 6502a

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    Well, at least they pay attention to the web standards with webkit, as opposed to some other browsers I know of that got forced on the mass public. :rolleyes:
     
  18. brisweeney thread starter macrumors regular

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    meh i just hated it when i used it on my macbook. been using mozilla since it was beta with firefox, got thunderbird as soon as it cam out and haven't looked back.

    its not a MAJOR issue,would just be nice to personalise your browsing experience a bit more.

    on a side note, can you sync emails with your macbook? i.e move mails from your inbox on iPhone to your mail client on the macbook or vice versa?
     
  19. clevin macrumors G3

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    hehe, i c. I know IE8 will be "more" standard-oriented, buy yet to try any beta...

    mobile browser market is quite interesting. with mobile safari, opera mobile, opera mini, fennec, IE mobile (deepfish?) skyfire. are all near-desktop browsers, its really a great improvement.
     
  20. earnjam macrumors 6502a

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    Use an IMAP mail server and you won't have to worry about it.
     
  21. earnjam macrumors 6502a

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    I know. Even though I didn't want to, I went ahead and downloaded IE8 for testing purposes. They seemed to fix a few bugs from IE7, but it's essentially still the same browser. We'll see how it progresses from beta...

    FF3 is lightyears ahead. If only the general population would upgrade from IE6 it would certainly make web development much much easier.

    The mobile browser market is interesting and something I'm going to have to pay attention to as more and more people are partaking in mobile browsing now.
     
  22. Archie- macrumors regular

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    Of the mobile browsers, it seems Opera Mobile is the most webstandardy of them all.
     
  23. rr1024 macrumors newbie

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    I totally agree that more should upgrade to FireFox and my company is doing it's part. Our agents all must use FF fox only on our network and from all the web stats we have seen IE is now second or third place when it comes to browsers.....We have also updated all our clients to Thunderbird and the only people who complained are those who had the fancy "Calendar and Notes" Sync between iPhone and OutBox? or what ever that stupid email client is by MS...lol

    However, I did see how that email client(Outlook?) worked with the iPhone and it was great time saver an scheduler.
    Of course we know that Apple and Microsoft are in bed together which is why that works so well and apple has not created the same functionality for Thunderbird or some of the other email clients....

    Pretty sad that Apple is starting to go they way of Microsoft in the predatory business practices, I held them to a high standard

    Anyway i would like to offer our support for an app for iPhone to Thunderbird for email, notes and Calendar sync and scheduling
     
  24. Roessnakhan macrumors 68040

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    I'm sure they wouldn't allow it for "duplicating functionality" as there already is a browser.
     
  25. Small White Car macrumors G4

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    I'm curious how you became so sure of that.

    Now, you're right that they won't allow Firefox, but that's because it doesn't use Webkit, not because of duplicating functionality.
     

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