Firepod question

quigleybc

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On the back of my Firepod their are 8 TRS balanced 1/4" output's.

I was told that these are not through puts, so I couldn't just plug say..a guitar into the front, and have the sound come out the back...

no, i was told these outputs would be used for something like "submixes" and other routing options...from the software I guess??

wha?

I don't get it.

Can someone explain what I would use those 8 outputs on the back of the firepod for?

thanks :)
 

zimv20

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i was told these outputs would be used for something like "submixes" and other routing options...from the software I guess??
not having used one, i'd assume they were the outputs 1-8 available for you @ mixdown. if you wanted to do hardware inserts or mix out of the box, that is. the software is whatever DAW you're using.

throughput? it'd be a nice feature for low-latency monitoring, but i couldn't say whether presonus offers that feature. fwiw, my rosetta800 does, and i can configure it either through apogee software (if i'm using the firewire card), or i can configure that on the front panel.
 

quigleybc

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hey there you are Zim, thanks

so,

After I've recorded all my tracks (did that today)

I can then use my Firepod, on the Mac running Logic with all the tracks, and have the 1-8 outputs "output" the sound of each recorded track to a PA, or hardware mixer....or something. ?

So I could, send the sounds of each track "out" to a mixer.

kind of defeats the purpose of using firewire>DAW for mixing no?

hmmmm, still kinda foggy on what i'd use those outputs for....

:eek:
 

zimv20

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I can then use my Firepod, on the Mac running Logic with all the tracks, and have the 1-8 outputs "output" the sound of each recorded track to a PA, or hardware mixer....or something. ?
yes.

So I could, send the sounds of each track "out" to a mixer.

kind of defeats the purpose of using firewire>DAW for mixing no?
defeats what purpose? i don't understand.

they are useful for mixdown, if you have external hardware you want to use. e.g. you may have an EQ/compressor chain you want to use for lead vox, you can use a hardware insert (and a firepod channel of d/a then a/d).

or, if you want to do your whole mixdown in analog, you can mix down to 8 channels in the DAW, then send those 8 channels out through d/a into your mixer.

that's similiar to what i do. i send out 16 tracks to a folcrom, using all my hardware compressors and such, mix down to 2 channels, send that through a compressor, then record the stereo mix back into pro tools.
 

quigleybc

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Nice, thanks Zim
it's all starting to make sense now.:)


yes.
you may have an EQ/compressor chain you want to use for lead vox, you can use a hardware insert (and a firepod channel of d/a then a/d).
So I would send the lead vocals going into firepod channel one->into Logic channel one->out from firepod channel one out->into EQ/compressor chain ->back into Firepod? just kind of confused on "firepod channel of d/a then a/d"

thanks :)
 

zimv20

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So I would send the lead vocals going into firepod channel one->into Logic channel one->out from firepod channel one out->into EQ/compressor chain ->back into Firepod? just kind of confused on "firepod channel of d/a then a/d"
no, i was talking about mixdown.

if you want to use, say, an 1176 during tracking, then the chain is:

mic -> pre -> 1176 -> firepod a/d -> DAW


but if you want to use it at mixdown, it's:

DAW -> firepod d/a -> 1176 -> firepod a/d -> DAW
 

quigleybc

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but if you want to use it at mixdown, it's:

DAW -> firepod d/a -> 1176 -> firepod a/d -> DAW
lol

last question i promise.

So my question lies in the firepod a/d -> DAW from the above chain

where would that input be? A whole new channel? back into the firepod again on the front?

or

on the back of that pic of the firepod in the first post, there are line in's 1 and 2..is that where? and does that mean i can only use external hardware, at mixdown, on channel's one and two?
 

zimv20

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you want the line in's when coming back in. looking on this page, it says:
• 8 Analog Mic/Line Inputs, 2 Instrument Inputs
looks to me that line ins 1 and 2 are on the back, and 3-8 are on the front. any would work for this purpose. so a total of 8 hardware inserts are available to you at mixdown.

in the DAW, you can either use a hardware insert (no new track), or record a new track with the effect applied (through bussing and then a hardware insert). some people print the effect in case they ever need to recall and the hardware piece may be gone for whatever reason.

in PTLE, anyway, a hardware insert looks just like a plug-in, except i know it's going out to real hardware.

is this a relevant issue? do you have hardware you use @ mixdown?