ITWorld reports that a slip up may reveal Firewire 2 is coming tomorrow:
The question becomes - which hardware will sport the new interface?
The question becomes - which hardware will sport the new interface?
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Other than the fact that I have a brand new 20 gig iPod, I wouldn't mind a new video iPod. Transferring huge video files might be a use for a FW2 of FW800. If so, that would necessitate very fast DVD compression (new software).
Then again, FW2 may just be a play to hammer USB2.0.
Then again, FW2 may just be a play to hammer USB2.0.
Very good, now what about USB2.0? Is there even a future there, or is Apple going to leave USB 1 for low-speed peripherals only? I don't really see the point in USB 2 since FW 2 is so much better...
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This was mentioned earlier at AI I think. I say Steve will be throwing pocket firewire drives athe SmartDisk reps tomorrow behind the stage.
This is winding up to be a whirlwind of a show. Apple sells smartdisk drives at their stores, wonder if Stevie will pull them like he did to ATI.
This is winding up to be a whirlwind of a show. Apple sells smartdisk drives at their stores, wonder if Stevie will pull them like he did to ATI.
but the problem is that the average consumer does not realize this.
you might have your techies and mac users who realize the performance gains, but will Joe PC really care or want to use the new tech?
Check out this moron (an analyst at IDC):
"Kay is unimpressed with the promise of Firewire2. "I don't know what we need it for. FireWire is really fast already, and data is only as fast as your slowest link -- your PC or your modem or cable line."
This guy gets paid big bucks to be a tech expert?!!? So my Firewire2 connection will be slow trasferring multi-GB video files because the same computer also has a 56K modem? 'Cause, hey, a computer is only as fast as its slowest connection, right?
Such a freakin' moron
"Kay is unimpressed with the promise of Firewire2. "I don't know what we need it for. FireWire is really fast already, and data is only as fast as your slowest link -- your PC or your modem or cable line."
This guy gets paid big bucks to be a tech expert?!!? So my Firewire2 connection will be slow trasferring multi-GB video files because the same computer also has a 56K modem? 'Cause, hey, a computer is only as fast as its slowest connection, right?
Such a freakin' moron
Well Firewire2 is probably about 3 times faster than USB2.0 (since benchmarks already had Firewire significantly faster than USB 2.0). So I think it would be smart for Apple to upgrade all its USB ports to 2.0, just for compatibility's sake. 3x difference is enough that I don't think external drive makers and video camera makes would drop Firewire2 support entirely in favor of USB 2.0. And if they were going to drop Firewire support they probably would've regardless of what Apple and its 3% market share does...
Analysts are not often right. Just look at the stock market--how many could predict that?
What he doesn't know is there is always room for more bandwidth. And in a few years, we'll have megabandwidth. Just wait.
FW2 would be a good feature to have. Hope it happens.
What he doesn't know is there is always room for more bandwidth. And in a few years, we'll have megabandwidth. Just wait.
FW2 would be a good feature to have. Hope it happens.
Firewire maxes out at 50 MB/s. Most 7200 rpm hard drives cannot even provide a sustained 40 MB/s. FW2 will help burst transfers, but it will not magically double your hard drive transfer speed. Only until they start throwing in 10k or 15k RPM hard drives (which will not happen until they make the IDE versions of them) will we need FW2. The only real good, immediate, application of FW2 will be for networking computers to make clusters. For most everything else the bus isn't really a bottleneck.
Everyones bypassed the real question possed by this.. why would they release Firewire2 without a machine to put it in? Everyones insisting no powermac updates... and yet steves announcing FW2? doesnt add up....
I don't think I follow... I'm not a switcher, however my printer, scanner and digital camera are usb...
Take away usb and you take away the ability to use nearly all peripherals currently being mfg'd ... right?
Incidentally... would FireWire2 be better for capturing HDTV signals? From what I understand, regular 720x486 footage comes in at about 30mb/second... in which case to record a higher def signal would require 'something more' than FireWire1?
NOTHING BIG
The more I look at Apples web site, and compare it to last years hype, I really don't think we are going to see the really really cool surprise device. I mean, I would love nothing more than that, but I doubt it. Apple is not hyping anything at all. It's very quiet.
JOHN
The more I look at Apples web site, and compare it to last years hype, I really don't think we are going to see the really really cool surprise device. I mean, I would love nothing more than that, but I doubt it. Apple is not hyping anything at all. It's very quiet.
JOHN
Re: NOTHING BIG
The hype going into last year was a first for Apple, I think. Maybe they didn't like the effect it had. I mean, by the time we got to the show I was expecting something so much more than a flat panel iMac. So at least for me, the hype they posted backfired. Better to leave us in the dark...then when we see what Steve has to show we can decide for ourselves how ho-hum or cool it is.
The hype going into last year was a first for Apple, I think. Maybe they didn't like the effect it had. I mean, by the time we got to the show I was expecting something so much more than a flat panel iMac. So at least for me, the hype they posted backfired. Better to leave us in the dark...then when we see what Steve has to show we can decide for ourselves how ho-hum or cool it is.
You mean, to connect to a computer? Of course, you'd have to get a computer that could handle FireWire2 as well...
Ltes hope that either Apple or some 3rd party release a PCI card for it. I just bought this comp in August! Plus, wasn't the Mirrored Drive Doors model supposed to have FW2 according to that PDF that got leaked? Im thinking it may be incorporated into XServes, and possibly following the style of BlueTooth's release at the last MacWorld Tokyo.