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Discussion in 'MacBook Pro' started by Stang68, Oct 14, 2008.
Should they have kept it? More FW ports?
It would have been nice if they had another FW800 port or a FW3200. Technically, you do have 2xFW400 though, provided you got an adaptor.
Yep, makes no difference. FW800 is backward compatible, and if you have more than one device, you just daisy-chain. Simple. Simplification.
I'd prefer they replace a USB port with a 2nd FW800. I use FW800 for external hard drives. Screamin' fast!
It's just too bad that the old MBPs had space for 3xFW400.
I never had an opportunity to use FW 400 (or 800 for that matter), but I guess I would have missed it if I did because USB2 can be glacially slow at times.
What? What you mean it's gone? Didn't you know you can have a FW800 → FW400 Cable and still use the FW800 element? Just means you'll need to invest in more cables.
Now that I have a HDD-based camcorder, I personally have zero need for firewire. Therefore, I could even do without any FW ports. I just looked at the photos of the sides and wonder why they couldn't put two more USB ports on the optical drive side.
I know tons of Mac users, and to tell you the truth, not that many people use FW. You only hear about the few that complain about it being taken away. The vast majority if users go with USB because no matter what it is, USB is always cheaper and the speed boost you gain from FW400 vs, USB usually isn't worth the extra price paid.
As far as FW800 goes, then that is a different story. No one on a MacBook had that anyway. For that, you'd use a MacBook Pro or a Mac Pro.
I never used it. Well, only to transfer files from an previous mac. It wont be missed.
FW400 was largly used for transferring video from DVcams but newer cams have adopted the faster FW800 standard due to HD thus FW400 get's the boot - anyway... not sure what's with all the fuss.. FW800 sockets can support everything on the FW400 system, plus a whole lot more!
It'll just end up like USB and all the cable variations they have with the different ends/sockets.
Just need to have 1 800/400 cable laying around.
You can't daisy chain your camera and hard drive, your just asking for dropped frames.
daisy chaining still requires having a firewire port on the laptop so the plain macbook is still hooped.
A quick google search found this:
It's an ethernet->firewire adaptor, I never heard of such a thing before I looked for it today, hopefully something like this will work on the macbook or capturing minidv content is off the table with the macbook air.
EDIT: nevermind, the adaptor is apparently a network cable tester, not an actual ethernet->firewire conversion.
wait so if I have a external that uses firewire400 does that mean if I get the new mbp that I can use the fw400 cable into the fw800 port if it is backwards compatible?
I use FW400 for my iPod among other things.
oh well, firewire 400 and 800 never worked at the same time on my notebook anyway
I don't get the choices in this poll. Firewire is entirely gone from the new MacBook -- I thought that was the significant departure from the past.
The loss of Target Disk Mode on these new MacBooks is the biggest issue I can see. That's really unfortunate -- it can be such a life-saver.
I've got a Lacie external HD which has FW400 (inc. daisy chain port), FW800 and USB 2...I'm guessing I can't plug a firewire device into the lacie, then connect the lacie by USB 2 to one of the new macbooks?
Sorry, I didn't specify it...this was for the MBP only.
Yes, I knew. That is why its an option in the poll .
Apple could have at least given us two FW800 ports, right? This is a PRO MACHINE! Give us all we are gonna need. I want to be able to capture video and save it to my FW800 external at the same time!
I don't really use the FW400 socket all that much, I actually run out of FW800 ports, which is rather annoying. Though, IF you folks really need more FW ports, why not invest in an ExpressCard FW400/800 card? Then you needn't worry about daisy chaining, dropped frames or what have you.. and you can even get a FW800 Hub!
Jesus, what if you had brains?
Jeeeeez...sorry Mr. High and Mighty. We all aren't experts about Firewire. You don't have to be such an *******.
I'm pissed at this guy, but I'm happy he gave us some info. He just HAD to add in that last line?
Amen, I have a third gen that only charges with firewire and honestly, FW800 periphs are a little expensive for my blood. The cheapest FW800 external enclosure I could find was $70, you can buy USB externals with a HD for that much!
The express card option is the best way to split the Bus, but allot of people use there express card slot for things at the same time.
3G Card? XD CAM Memory Cards....
Yeah, this is true. But I guess it is the best option, right? Or could you purchase a FW hub?