firewire target mode to PC

Discussion in 'Macintosh Computers' started by vitruvius, Sep 24, 2003.

  1. vitruvius macrumors regular

    Feb 26, 2002
    Caracas, Venezuela
    anybody know if its possible to conect a mac in firewire target mode to a PC to transfer information?

  2. onlydroops macrumors member

    Aug 5, 2003
    i don't think this is possible. i was just in an apple store because my logic board failed and i needed to transfer files. i told them the only other computers i had at home were PCs and they told me it wasn't possible.
  3. hugemullens macrumors 6502a


    Dec 15, 2002
    I'm pretty sure windows can't read the mac file format, thus why we needed a windows specific ipod back in the day. So, no i dont think you can.
  4. ibookin' macrumors 65816


    Jul 7, 2002
    Los Angeles, CA
    A program called MacOpener can read HFS and HFS+ formatted disks on Windows.

    I have plugged my iBook into my PC, and it has recognized the iBook as a firewire hard drive, but since I don't have MacOpener, it will not read the contents.

    I assume it would work with MacOpener.
  5. iPC macrumors 6502


    Jul 22, 2003
    East Windsor, CT
    After a bit of looking into this I have come to the following:

    1. target mode does not play nice between Mac and PC.
    2. IP over firewire does not have fast transfer rates (500MB in 15 minutes is fastest I found)
    3. most people end up using the tried and true ethernet patch cable...
    4. some have resorted to burning CD's
    5. or even just making a zip file, uploading to private website, and downloading to different machine (by far the least efficient).

    MacOpener is not cheap
  6. vitruvius thread starter macrumors regular

    Feb 26, 2002
    Caracas, Venezuela
    thx all for the info. it looks like im going to use an ethernet connection. i remember to had read somewhere that i dont need a crossover cable to do that with my powerbook since its ethernet port detects automatically if it is connected to a hub or a PC, is that true?

  7. notjustjay macrumors 603


    Sep 19, 2003
    Canada, eh?
    hey guys,

    What about the reverse?

    If I have an NTFS (or FAT32) formatted drive in a Firewire enclosure, will the Mac play nice with it?

    The idea is that I have a common Firewire external drive for storing "repository" files -- videos for editing, MP3's, who knows... and plug it into the machine that needs it, be it a Mac or a PC.

    Would it work?
  8. legion macrumors 6502a

    Jul 31, 2003
    Macs can't read NTFS. PCs can read Mac formats (there's another one besides MacOpener that is cheaper: MacDrive.) I know Macs and PCs can share FAT, but I think Macs can't support FAT32.
  9. benixau macrumors 65816


    Oct 9, 2002
    Sydney, Australia
    mac os x 10.2 at least can do FAT32 - i loaded a pc drive that was fat32 to recover the contents. Twas easy.
  10. NaOH macrumors newbie

    Sep 25, 2003
    London, United Kingdom
    NTFS on Mac OS X

    I have seen software on VersionTracker and other Mac download sites, which gives the ability to mount and read NTFS volumes. (It is unable to write to NTFS volumes at the moment.)

    However, the ability to access an NTFS volume fully, is claimed to be a feature of Mac OS X 10.3

    How well Mac OS X 10.3 will deal with NTFS volumes remains to be seen, but this ability is well within the scope of Mac OS X. It is also in line with Apple's drive towards becoming as compatible with Windows systems as possible.

    Hope this info is of use.
  11. joeyjojoe macrumors regular

    Jun 20, 2003
    Los Angeles, CA
    Look at MacDrive and see if it will serve your needs. I'm not sure about using the target disk mode and all, but it works for my external HFS+ drive. Plus the company is really good with service (they also make XPlay).
  12. jamall macrumors regular

    Jun 9, 2003
    Canberra, Australia
    The Mac OS has been able to deal with FAT32 since the days of system 7, however NTFS is more complicated as it incorporates a form of journaling. Panther will be able to read NTFS disks but not write to them. There is a program available for Windows called MacDrive. I've used an external firewire drive in HFS+ format in Windows with this software, I assume a firewire target disk mac wouldn't be any different.

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