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first crash after a month with iMac

michel52

michel52

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Original poster
Sep 1, 2012
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Hi there everyone,
a month ago i bought a new iMac 21,5 inch i5 quad core 4GB ram and today i had a first crash and i don't know what happend with my new iMac,but here is the crash report:




1/09/12 18:55:14,405 DumpPanic[52]: com.apple.message.domain: com.apple.crashreporter.writereport.panic
com.apple.message.signature: Kernel
com.apple.message.signature2: UNBUNDLED |||
com.apple.message.signature3: UNKNOWN
com.apple.message.result: noop
com.apple.message.summarize: YES


i really want to know what the problem was and what can i do about it :confused:
thanks
Michel52
 
If you get a screen that looks like this:
TS3742_01_KP-001-en.jpg
It's called a kernel panic. If it doesn't happen again, or very infrequently, you don't need to worry about it.
In most cases, kernel panics are not caused by an issue with your Mac. They are most likely caused by an issue external to your Mac. If the kernel panic doesn't happen again within a few weeks, you don't need to troubleshoot further.
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If it does happen again, this may help:
 
GGJstudios said:
If you get a screen that looks like this:
TS3742_01_KP-001-en.jpg
It's called a kernel panic. If it doesn't happen again, or very infrequently, you don't need to worry about it. If it does happen again, this may help:
Click to expand...

I thought Macs " just work " :eek:
 
GGJstudios said:
If you get a screen that looks like this:
TS3742_01_KP-001-en.jpg
It's called a kernel panic. If it doesn't happen again, or very infrequently, you don't need to worry about it. If it does happen again, this may help:
Click to expand...

oke thank you for the info but i never knew or expect that a brand new iMac have this kernel panic or for windows BSOD possible!
so i understand that not any software is perfect even apple OS X isn't .....
 
kernel panic iMac at 18:55 pm 1/9/2012

old-wiz said:
You need to look at the console log and post it here. There are people who can make suggestions from looking at the console log.
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Interval Since Last Panic Report: 146199 sec
Panics Since Last Report: 1
Anonymous UUID: 53F5DC26-31C0-4451-AA0D-7934506B23F5

Sat Sep 1 18:55:14 2012
panic(cpu 1 caller 0xffffff8028cb7b95): Kernel trap at 0xffffff8028c46084, type 13=general protection, registers:
CR0: 0x0000000080010033, CR2: 0x00007fff5c20e1d8, CR3: 0x000000000d002017, CR4: 0x00000000000606e0
RAX: 0xdeadbeefdeadbeef, RBX: 0xffffff7faaf05148, RCX: 0xffffff8036efd620, RDX: 0x0000000000000000
RSP: 0xffffff80a8fda940, RBP: 0xffffff80a8fda940, RSI: 0xffffff7faaf05360, RDI: 0xffffff8034cd0000
R8: 0xffffff803511dba0, R9: 0x0000000000000000, R10: 0xffffff8036efd620, R11: 0xffffff80a8fdb9d8
R12: 0x0000000000000001, R13: 0xffffff803511dba0, R14: 0xffffff803511dba0, R15: 0xffffff8036efd620
RFL: 0x0000000000010282, RIP: 0xffffff8028c46084, CS: 0x0000000000000008, SS: 0x0000000000000010
Fault CR2: 0x00007fff5c20e1d8, Error code: 0x0000000000000000, Fault CPU: 0x1

Backtrace (CPU 1), Frame : Return Address
0xffffff80a8fda5e0 : 0xffffff8028c1d5f6
0xffffff80a8fda650 : 0xffffff8028cb7b95
0xffffff80a8fda820 : 0xffffff8028cce4ad
0xffffff80a8fda840 : 0xffffff8028c46084
0xffffff80a8fda940 : 0xffffff8028d0f9a6
0xffffff80a8fda950 : 0xffffff7faaf04021
0xffffff80a8fda9b0 : 0xffffff7faaf0347b
0xffffff80a8fdba30 : 0xffffff8028f40db1
0xffffff80a8fdba90 : 0xffffff8028cf5666
0xffffff80a8fdbae0 : 0xffffff8028d09311
0xffffff80a8fdbb90 : 0xffffff8028cfbb09
0xffffff80a8fdbc40 : 0xffffff8028cfc3e2
0xffffff80a8fdbf50 : 0xffffff8028fe17da
0xffffff80a8fdbfb0 : 0xffffff8028ccecf3
Kernel Extensions in backtrace:
com.avast.AvastFileShield(1.0.1)[A0A1FD97-2C58-7950-37D9-0CD538FAD375]@0xffffff7faaf02000->0xffffff7faaf07fff

BSD process name corresponding to current thread: launchd

Mac OS version:
12B19

Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 12.1.0: Tue Aug 14 13:29:55 PDT 2012; root:xnu-2050.9.2~1/RELEASE_X86_64
Kernel UUID: 3005059E-270B-3B9F-940D-7A66C05DDC9D
Kernel slide: 0x0000000028a00000
Kernel text base: 0xffffff8028c00000
System model name: iMac12,1 (Mac-942B5BF58194151B)

System uptime in nanoseconds: 6009315625315
last loaded kext at 18132150987: com.apple.driver.AppleBluetoothMultitouch 75.15 (addr 0xffffff7faa903000, size 77824)
last unloaded kext at 156032141159: com.apple.driver.AppleUSBUHCI 5.1.5 (addr 0xffffff7fa95a0000, size 65536)
loaded kexts:
com.avast.PacketForwarder 1.3
com.avast.AvastFileShield 1.0.1
com.apple.driver.AppleBluetoothMultitouch 75.15
com.apple.driver.AudioAUUC 1.60
com.apple.driver.AppleHWSensor 1.9.5d0
com.apple.driver.AppleMikeyHIDDriver 122
com.apple.driver.AGPM 100.12.69
com.apple.filesystems.autofs 3.0
com.apple.driver.AppleHDA 2.3.0f2
com.apple.iokit.BroadcomBluetoothHCIControllerUSBTransport 4.0.9f8
com.apple.driver.AppleMikeyDriver 2.3.0f2
com.apple.driver.AppleUpstreamUserClient 3.5.10
com.apple.driver.AppleIntelHD3000Graphics 8.0.0
com.apple.kext.AMDFramebuffer 8.0.0
com.apple.AMDRadeonAccelerator 1.0.0
com.apple.driver.AppleBacklight 170.2.3
com.apple.driver.AppleSMCLMU 2.0.2d0
com.apple.iokit.IOUserEthernet 1.0.0d1
com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothSerialManager 4.0.9f8
com.apple.Dont_Steal_Mac_OS_X 7.0.0
com.apple.driver.AppleSMCPDRC 1.0.0
com.apple.driver.AppleLPC 1.6.0
com.apple.driver.ACPI_SMC_PlatformPlugin 1.0.0
com.apple.driver.ApplePolicyControl 3.2.6
com.apple.driver.AppleMCCSControl 1.0.33
com.apple.driver.AppleIntelSNBGraphicsFB 8.0.0
com.apple.driver.AppleIRController 320.15
com.apple.iokit.SCSITaskUserClient 3.5.1
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBCardReader 3.1.0
com.apple.AppleFSCompression.AppleFSCompressionTypeDataless 1.0.0d1
com.apple.AppleFSCompression.AppleFSCompressionTypeZlib 1.0.0d1
com.apple.BootCache 34
com.apple.driver.XsanFilter 404
com.apple.iokit.IOAHCIBlockStorage 2.2.1
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBHub 5.1.6
com.apple.driver.AirPort.Atheros40 600.70.23
com.apple.driver.AppleFWOHCI 4.9.5
com.apple.iokit.AppleBCM5701Ethernet 3.2.5b3
com.apple.driver.AppleAHCIPort 2.4.0
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBEHCI 5.1.5
com.apple.driver.AppleEFINVRAM 1.6.1
com.apple.driver.AppleACPIButtons 1.6
com.apple.driver.AppleRTC 1.5
com.apple.driver.AppleHPET 1.7
com.apple.driver.AppleSMBIOS 1.9
com.apple.driver.AppleACPIEC 1.6
com.apple.driver.AppleAPIC 1.6
com.apple.driver.AppleIntelCPUPowerManagementClient 196.0.0
com.apple.nke.applicationfirewall 4.0.39
com.apple.security.quarantine 2
com.apple.driver.AppleIntelCPUPowerManagement 196.0.0
com.apple.driver.IOBluetoothHIDDriver 4.0.9f8
com.apple.driver.AppleMultitouchDriver 235.27
com.apple.kext.triggers 1.0
com.apple.driver.DspFuncLib 2.3.0f2
com.apple.iokit.IOAudioFamily 1.8.9fc9
com.apple.kext.OSvKernDSPLib 1.6
com.apple.iokit.AppleBluetoothHCIControllerUSBTransport 4.0.9f8
com.apple.iokit.IOAcceleratorFamily 19.0.26
com.apple.kext.AMD6000Controller 8.0.0
com.apple.kext.AMDSupport 8.0.0
com.apple.driver.AppleBacklightExpert 1.0.4
com.apple.iokit.IOFireWireIP 2.2.5
com.apple.iokit.IOSurface 86.0.2
com.apple.iokit.IOSerialFamily 10.0.6
com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothFamily 4.0.9f8
com.apple.driver.IOPlatformPluginLegacy 1.0.0
com.apple.driver.IOPlatformPluginFamily 5.2.0d16
com.apple.driver.AppleSMBusPCI 1.0.10d0
com.apple.driver.AppleHDAController 2.3.0f2
com.apple.iokit.IOHDAFamily 2.3.0f2
com.apple.driver.AppleSMC 3.1.3d11
com.apple.driver.AppleGraphicsControl 3.2.6
com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport 2.3.4
com.apple.driver.AppleSMBusController 1.0.10d0
com.apple.driver.AppleThunderboltEDMSink 1.1.8
com.apple.driver.AppleThunderboltEDMSource 1.1.8
com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily 2.3.4
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBHIDKeyboard 165.5
com.apple.driver.AppleHIDKeyboard 165.5
com.apple.driver.AppleThunderboltDPOutAdapter 1.8.5
com.apple.driver.AppleThunderboltDPInAdapter 1.8.5
com.apple.driver.AppleThunderboltDPAdapterFamily 1.8.5
com.apple.driver.AppleThunderboltPCIDownAdapter 1.2.5
com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIMultimediaCommandsDevice 3.5.1
com.apple.iokit.IOBDStorageFamily 1.7
com.apple.iokit.IODVDStorageFamily 1.7.1
com.apple.iokit.IOCDStorageFamily 1.7.1
com.apple.iokit.IOUSBHIDDriver 5.0.0
com.apple.iokit.IOAHCISerialATAPI 2.5.0
com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIBlockCommandsDevice 3.5.1
com.apple.iokit.IOUSBMassStorageClass 3.5.0
com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIArchitectureModelFamily 3.5.1
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBMergeNub 5.1.5
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBComposite 5.0.0
com.apple.driver.AppleThunderboltNHI 1.6.0
com.apple.iokit.IOThunderboltFamily 2.0.3
com.apple.iokit.IOUSBUserClient 5.0.0
com.apple.iokit.IO80211Family 500.15
com.apple.iokit.IOFireWireFamily 4.5.5
com.apple.iokit.IOEthernetAVBController 1.0.2b1
com.apple.iokit.IONetworkingFamily 3.0
com.apple.iokit.IOAHCIFamily 2.2.0
com.apple.iokit.IOUSBFamily 5.1.6
com.apple.driver.AppleEFIRuntime 1.6.1
com.apple.iokit.IOHIDFamily 1.8.0
com.apple.iokit.IOSMBusFamily 1.1
com.apple.security.sandbox 220
com.apple.kext.AppleMatch 1.0.0d1
com.apple.security.TMSafetyNet 7
com.apple.driver.DiskImages 344
com.apple.iokit.IOStorageFamily 1.8
com.apple.driver.AppleKeyStore 28.18
com.apple.driver.AppleACPIPlatform 1.6
com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily 2.7
com.apple.iokit.IOACPIFamily 1.4
com.apple.kec.corecrypto 1.0
System Profile:
Model: iMac12,1, BootROM IM121.0047.B1F, 4 processors, Intel Core i5, 2.5 GHz, 4 GB, SMC 1.71f22
Graphics: AMD Radeon HD 6750M, AMD Radeon HD 6750M, PCIe, 512 MB
Memory Module: BANK 0/DIMM0, 2 GB, DDR3, 1333 MHz, 0x02FE, 0x45424A3230554638424353302D444A2D4620
Memory Module: BANK 1/DIMM0, 2 GB, DDR3, 1333 MHz, 0x02FE, 0x45424A3230554638424353302D444A2D4620
AirPort: spairport_wireless_card_type_airport_extreme (0x168C, 0x9A), Atheros 9380: 4.0.70.23-P2P
Bluetooth: Version 4.0.9f8 10405, 2 service, 18 devices, 1 incoming serial ports
Network Service: Wi-Fi, AirPort, en1
Serial ATA Device: ST3500418AS, 500,11 GB
Serial ATA Device: HL-DT-STDVDRW GA32N
USB Device: hub_device, 0x0424 (SMSC), 0x2514, 0xfa100000 / 3
USB Device: Photosmart 7400 series, 0x03f0 (Hewlett Packard), 0xb802, 0xfa120000 / 5
USB Device: BRCM2046 Hub, 0x0a5c (Broadcom Corp.), 0x4500, 0xfa110000 / 4
USB Device: Bluetooth USB Host Controller, apple_vendor_id, 0x8215, 0xfa111000 / 8
USB Device: FaceTime HD Camera (Built-in), apple_vendor_id, 0x850b, 0xfa200000 / 2
USB Device: hub_device, 0x0424 (SMSC), 0x2514, 0xfd100000 / 2
USB Device: Keyboard Hub, apple_vendor_id, 0x1006, 0xfd130000 / 5
USB Device: Apple Keyboard, apple_vendor_id, 0x0250, 0xfd132000 / 6
USB Device: IR Receiver, apple_vendor_id, 0x8242, 0xfd120000 / 4
USB Device: Internal Memory Card Reader, apple_vendor_id, 0x8403, 0xfd110000 / 3
 
michel52 said:
Interval Since Last Panic Report: 146199 sec
Panics Since Last Report: 1
Anonymous UUID: 53F5DC26-31C0-4451-AA0D-7934506B23F5

Sat Sep 1 18:55:14 2012
panic(cpu 1 caller 0xffffff8028cb7b95): Kernel trap at 0xffffff8028c46084, type 13=general protection, registers:
CR0: 0x0000000080010033, CR2: 0x00007fff5c20e1d8, CR3: 0x000000000d002017, CR4: 0x00000000000606e0
RAX: 0xdeadbeefdeadbeef, RBX: 0xffffff7faaf05148, RCX: 0xffffff8036efd620, RDX: 0x0000000000000000
RSP: 0xffffff80a8fda940, RBP: 0xffffff80a8fda940, RSI: 0xffffff7faaf05360, RDI: 0xffffff8034cd0000
R8: 0xffffff803511dba0, R9: 0x0000000000000000, R10: 0xffffff8036efd620, R11: 0xffffff80a8fdb9d8
R12: 0x0000000000000001, R13: 0xffffff803511dba0, R14: 0xffffff803511dba0, R15: 0xffffff8036efd620
RFL: 0x0000000000010282, RIP: 0xffffff8028c46084, CS: 0x0000000000000008, SS: 0x0000000000000010
Fault CR2: 0x00007fff5c20e1d8, Error code: 0x0000000000000000, Fault CPU: 0x1

Backtrace (CPU 1), Frame : Return Address
0xffffff80a8fda5e0 : 0xffffff8028c1d5f6
0xffffff80a8fda650 : 0xffffff8028cb7b95
0xffffff80a8fda820 : 0xffffff8028cce4ad
0xffffff80a8fda840 : 0xffffff8028c46084
0xffffff80a8fda940 : 0xffffff8028d0f9a6
0xffffff80a8fda950 : 0xffffff7faaf04021
0xffffff80a8fda9b0 : 0xffffff7faaf0347b
0xffffff80a8fdba30 : 0xffffff8028f40db1
0xffffff80a8fdba90 : 0xffffff8028cf5666
0xffffff80a8fdbae0 : 0xffffff8028d09311
0xffffff80a8fdbb90 : 0xffffff8028cfbb09
0xffffff80a8fdbc40 : 0xffffff8028cfc3e2
0xffffff80a8fdbf50 : 0xffffff8028fe17da
0xffffff80a8fdbfb0 : 0xffffff8028ccecf3
Kernel Extensions in backtrace:
com.avast.AvastFileShield(1.0.1)[A0A1FD97-2C58-7950-37D9-0CD538FAD375]@0xffffff7faaf02000->0xffffff7faaf07fff

BSD process name corresponding to current thread: launchd

Mac OS version:
12B19

Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 12.1.0: Tue Aug 14 13:29:55 PDT 2012; root:xnu-2050.9.2~1/RELEASE_X86_64
Kernel UUID: 3005059E-270B-3B9F-940D-7A66C05DDC9D
Kernel slide: 0x0000000028a00000
Kernel text base: 0xffffff8028c00000
System model name: iMac12,1 (Mac-942B5BF58194151B)

System uptime in nanoseconds: 6009315625315
last loaded kext at 18132150987: com.apple.driver.AppleBluetoothMultitouch 75.15 (addr 0xffffff7faa903000, size 77824)
last unloaded kext at 156032141159: com.apple.driver.AppleUSBUHCI 5.1.5 (addr 0xffffff7fa95a0000, size 65536)
loaded kexts:
com.avast.PacketForwarder 1.3
com.avast.AvastFileShield 1.0.1
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Uninstall your avast! virus protection software. It appears to be the culprit, and you don't need anti-virus software anyway.
 
LPZ said:
Uninstall your avast! virus protection software. It appears to be the culprit, and you don't need anti-virus software anyway.
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oke, i remove avast
thanks for the help :)
 
pavl said:
If you want a good antivirus incase you interact a lot with pcs like in my case, I really recommend sophos, and it's free!
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I recommend that you avoid using Sophos, as it could actually increase your Mac's vulnerability, as described here and here.

Mac OS X has built-in anti-malware protection. That, combined with practicing safe computing, is all you need to keep a Mac malware-free. For details:

Mac Virus/Malware FAQ
 
FWIW:

Last and only time I had a kernel panic was when the cpu fan quit working in my 2008 Macbook. YMMV of course. But I know a few mac owners who've been all mac as long as I who've never had a kernel panic.
 
GGJstudios said:
I recommend that you avoid using Sophos, as it could actually increase your Mac's vulnerability, as described here and here.

Mac OS X has built-in anti-malware protection. That, combined with practicing safe computing, is all you need to keep a Mac malware-free. For details:

Mac Virus/Malware FAQ
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so do you think that avast antivirus have also a virus or malware in the setup planted?
 
No offense, but the notion that Macs do not need antivirus apps and have "built-in" malware protection is exactly the type of egotism that will compromise your information.

I thought the same thing, until someone tried ordering airplane tickets to China on my credit card a few years back. I didn't get the picture, I thought I entered my CC info into the wrong website. Then my WoW account got hacked. A family member of mine had a Norton subscription so I downloaded it from them, ran it, and it found malware. If you spend most of your day at your computer like I do then eventually you are going to install something stupid. In my case maybe a DRM removing app, video encoder, or who knows?

Macs get viruses -- don't be completely ridiculous.
 
Atisha said:
No offense, but the notion that Macs do not need antivirus apps and have "built-in" malware protection is exactly the type of egotism that will compromise your information.
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It's not egotism. It's a fact that practicing safe computing as described in the FAQ posted earlier will fully protect your Mac against every form of Mac OS X malware that has ever been released in the wild. 3rd party antivirus apps offer absolutely no protection that safe computing and the built-in anti-malware don't already provide.
Atisha said:
I thought the same thing, until someone tried ordering airplane tickets to China on my credit card a few years back. I didn't get the picture, I thought I entered my CC info into the wrong website. Then my WoW account got hacked.
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Giving your information to a phishing site has nothing whatsoever to do with malware.
Atisha said:
A family member of mine had a Norton subscription so I downloaded it from them, ran it, and it found malware.
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What malware, exactly? It was most likely Windows malware, which has no effect on Mac OS X.
Atisha said:
If you spend most of your day at your computer like I do then eventually you are going to install something stupid.
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One of the primary rules of safe computing is not to install software from unknown/untrusted sources. No antivirus can protect against user stupidity.
Atisha said:
Macs get viruses -- don't be completely ridiculous.
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Name one.
 
GGJstudios said:
It's not egotism. It's a fact that practicing safe computing as described in the FAQ posted earlier will fully protect your Mac against every form of Mac OS X malware that has ever been released in the wild. 3rd party antivirus apps offer absolutely no protection that safe computing and the built-in anti-malware don't already provide.

Giving your information to a phishing site has nothing whatsoever to do with malware.

What malware, exactly? It was most likely Windows malware, which has no effect on Mac OS X.

One of the primary rules of safe computing is not to install software from unknown/untrusted sources. No antivirus can protect against user stupidity.

Name one.
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and yet i still don't really know if Mac needs antivirus or not, and where do you know this that Mac has a in-built- anti malware and antivirus ?
the one said yes mac needs antivirus, the other one said not necessary at all ....????
:confused:
 
michel52 said:
and yet i still don't really know if Mac needs antivirus or not, and where do you know this that Mac has a in-built- anti malware and antivirus ?
the one said yes mac needs antivirus, the other one said not necessary at all ....????
:confused:
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Apple themselves push the cures to the known bits of malware via Software Update. This isn't opinion, it's fact.

I've used this analogy elsewhere:
Installing an antivirus program on a Mac is a lot like wearing full plate mail to a gun fight. It's not going to protect you against bullets any more than your street clothes are, it will probably even slow you down, and yet since you feel "protected" you're likely to get overconfident and run out and do something stupid.
 
GGJstudios said:
It's not egotism. It's a fact that practicing safe computing as described in the FAQ posted earlier will fully protect your Mac against every form of Mac OS X malware that has ever been released in the wild. 3rd party antivirus apps offer absolutely no protection that safe computing and the built-in anti-malware don't already provide.

Giving your information to a phishing site has nothing whatsoever to do with malware.

What malware, exactly? It was most likely Windows malware, which has no effect on Mac OS X.

One of the primary rules of safe computing is not to install software from unknown/untrusted sources. No antivirus can protect against user stupidity.

Name one.
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I did not give my information to a phishing site.

I implied that I had some type of keylogger or spyware virus, which was how my CC and WoW login were compromised.

One of the primary rules of safe computing is not to install software from unknown/untrusted sources. No antivirus can protect against user stupidity.
Click to expand...

Half the applications I open ask if I'm "sure you want to open this application [from the internet]?" I'm sure it is the same for most people. It is a BS disclaimer, common to both Windows and Mac OS since 2007, which means absolutely nothing and provides no protection in itself. It is ultimately up to the user's judgment what he/she considers a reliable app to install, and if you are installing multiple apps per week or day then the laws of probability are against you.

Mac OS was unable to prevent my getting a virus nor detect it when these incidents occurred around 2009-2010, and the results could have been much worse than they were. That is a fact.

"You DO NOT have a virus on your Mac!" is not a fact, it is post designed to shut up people who repost "do you think I have a virus??" Also, it is irrational Mac fan garbage aimed at categorizing an entire group of people who have been infected with malware, partly as a result of listening to ridiculous "facts" such as yours, as stupid.

It is possible that in my case the spyware made its way into my OS before Snow Leopard came out, then the information it retrieved was used months later. It was still Norton which eliminated malware (I assume the spyware in question) from my OS, even after Snow Leopard was installed. I am just saying exactly what happened.
 
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Atisha said:
I did not give my information to a phishing site.

I implied that I had some type of keylogger or spyware virus, which was how my CC and WoW login were compromised.
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There are no keylogger or spyware viruses in the wild that can infect Mac OS X. The only keyloggers that run on Mac OS X require the user to actively install them. Read the FAQ I posted to understand the difference between a virus and a trojan.
Atisha said:
Half the applications I open ask if I'm "sure you want to open this application [from the internet]?" I'm sure it is the same for most people. It is a BS disclaimer, common to both Windows and Mac OS since 2007, which means absolutely nothing and provides no protection in itself.
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That warning is not the anti-malware I referred to that is built into Mac OS X since Snow Leopard. Read the link I posted.
Atisha said:
It is ultimately up to the user's judgment what he/she considers a reliable app to install, and if you are installing multiple apps per week or day then the laws of probability are against you.
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You can safely install as many apps as you like, as long as you're not foolish enough to get them from unknown/untrusted sources such as pirated software sites.
Atisha said:
Mac OS was unable to prevent my getting a virus nor detect it when these incidents occurred around 2009-2010, and the results could have been much worse than they were.
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You did not get a virus on Mac OS X. Period. There are none.
Atisha said:
"You DO NOT have a virus on your Mac!" is not a fact, it is post designed to shut up people who repost "do you think I have a virus??"
Click to expand...
Name one Mac OS X virus in the wild. Just one. I'll save you some time: there are none. The only Mac OS X malware in the wild is in the form of trojans, which can be avoided by practicing safe computing as described in the Mac Virus/Malware FAQ.
Atisha said:
Also, it is irrational Mac fan garbage aimed at categorizing an entire group of people who have been infected with malware, partly as a result of listening to ridiculous "facts" such as yours, as stupid.
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A virus is only one form of malware. There is nothing in my posts or in the FAQ that suggests that there is no Mac malware in the wild. Understand the difference.
 
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