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If you live in an apartment and want to upgrade from built-in TV speakers? This is basically a $200 "smart" 2.0 system. Apple is saying you need to spend $400 for that I guess.

I don't get the arbitrary software crap on these. Can't use the mini as TV speakers but the full size on you can. Neither one can be paired via Bluetooth even though they have the radio. This is all software gimping and there is no reason for it to exist.

Yeah, this is the first I'm hearing of this, and I was planning to buy two minis for this exact purpose. We've got an AppleTV connected to a Panasonic LCD and the built-in speaker not only sounds like crap, but we have to turn the volume all the way up to hear it. We have the system connected to a home theatre setup as well, but it's too much effort to turn the stereo on, switch inputs, turn the volume down on the TV, etc. I wanted the HomePods to simply serve as the everyday output for the AppleTV. I wonder what the odds will be of Apple adding the feature if enough people complain?
 
regarding the absence of a battery; for the identical sound output, the speaker would have to be larger, and heavier, to have room for a 10-15 hr battery. There are plenty of battery powered bluetooth speakers out there already. This is really more a wifi speaker and for most people, would therefore be tethered to your "home" (even if that is in the garden;). Its multi-room connect features, streaming, intercom, etc make this just fine to not be battery powered. And a battery would add cost as well. I will take the small and affordable path Apple chose, so I can easily sneak this into my home and have them essentially unseen. This is so much for flexible and affordable than a whole-house wired audio system.
 
We have the system connected to a home theatre setup as well, but it's too much effort to turn the stereo on, switch inputs, turn the volume down on the TV, etc. I wanted the HomePods to simply serve as the everyday output for the AppleTV. I wonder what the odds will be of Apple adding the feature if enough people complain?
Just get a Harmony remote to take that pain away and get good audio all the time.
 
Yeah, this is the first I'm hearing of this, and I was planning to buy two minis for this exact purpose. We've got an AppleTV connected to a Panasonic LCD and the built-in speaker not only sounds like crap, but we have to turn the volume all the way up to hear it. We have the system connected to a home theatre setup as well, but it's too much effort to turn the stereo on, switch inputs, turn the volume down on the TV, etc. I wanted the HomePods to simply serve as the everyday output for the AppleTV. I wonder what the odds will be of Apple adding the feature if enough people complain?

Can I ask why you'd rather spend $200 on two of these rather than on a sound bar, which will have far better sound? Genuinely interested to hear some use-cases here, not being snarky, although I do find it odd.
 
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sound quality is great. Siri still dumb as a bag of rocks.
I dont find Siri much dumber than the competitors. They often can answer random questions better but their comprehension of directions still seems just as bad.


Siri fares fine in this comparison. Not number one but not an obvious loser.
 
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The main disappointment for me is that it's not portable (no battery) and it's not water resistant.

The HomePod mini should have been the answer to WonderBoom Ultimate Ears.

I would have loved to take my HomePod mini outside in the Summer in the garden or to a barbecue/garden party.
The answer for mobility is the Libratone Zipp 2. I really think Apple licensed their tech for the speakers from them and just added improvements cause it seems the same. Biggest difference is the HomePod automatically adjusts while the Zipp needs to manually triggered to adjust for the room. The Zipp is portable and has airplay 2 and with the latest iOS update it will auto play when I ask Siri to play in the entire house, didn’t before had to add manually.
 
I look forward to replacing our dots with these. I'm especially excited to have one in my home office where I just play music on an old iPad.
 
I feel that it not being able to access 4 of the top 5 most popular radio stations in the UK (BBC) might hold it back a little here. Not sure if this is down to Apple or the BBC? Amazon and Google speakers can play them as far as I'm aware.
 
There are other speakers of similar size that do have batteries, so I’d say it’s a valid point, regardless of how Apple chooses to brand its speakers.
Not sure that logic floats. There are speakers bigger than the regular HomePod that have batteries, but that doesn’t mean the regular HomePod should have batteries. It’s just not designed for that. These homepods, even the mini, require a lot of power due to two or three things: the airplay protocol, the bigger higher quality drivers, and the computational audio. Once you add in a battery big enough to power the device for a decent period of time, it will significantly increase the size of the device. Apple could make a battery-powered speaker in the future, but it would likely ditch the computational audio, use the lower bandwidth Bluetooth protocol, and the actual speakers inside would be much smaller to make room for the battery, resulting in significantly worse sound quality. You’d end up with something not very special. You’d end up with the Beats Pill, which one can buy today.
 
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I'm calling BS on the guy who put it "back in the box after 5 minutes."

That's barely enough time to listen to one song, and he's already on Twitter complaining!
Yeah that guy is bit of a drama queen.
 
How Max Tatton-Brown is able to draw conclusions from five minutes with a speaker suggests that his review was more of a facetious remark. I’m going to go out on a whim here and guess he’s not a professional reviewer. 😏
 
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It might be a little bit odd that you can't set them as audio output for the TV, but it does lead to the question quite why you'd want to?

  • Because your ATV is hooked up to a monitor with no speakers.
  • Because your ATV is hooked up to a TV with terrible speakers.
  • Because you don't want to have two pairs of speakers in the same room, one for music/smart functions and one for TV.
 
There used to be an accessory called the iLugger to do this, but that was for the 17" iMac, not the 27" beast... It's comical really

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The Lavolta case will carry a full 27" iMac.

 
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Mine arrives tomorrow and I’m absolutely buzzing for it. Am I expecting it to blow my mind in terms of sound - absolutely not. But for 100 quid, I think it’ll be great. I have a wonderboom and if it sounds better than that I’ll be happy.

I work from home so to have that in the room opposite my desk is going to be great. I’m taking it and will enjoy it for what it is - a small smart speaker that packs a decent punch and is very capable for day to day listening. The added stuff like Siri, intercom etc is just a bonus for me.
 
It might be a little bit odd that you can't set them as audio output for the TV, but it does lead to the question quite why you'd want to?
Because bigger, more carefully thought out, and better placed speakers than those included in many modern TVs? A few TVs see sound as a selling point while many others figure that anybody that cares will use a sound bar.
 
I'm calling BS on the guy who put it "back in the box after 5 minutes."

That's barely enough time to listen to one song, and he's already on Twitter complaining!
Yea he seems a tad dramatic and unable to understand the difference between two products and that many people make decisions based on cost. Sure if we all had a money tree in the back yard we’d go with the bigger better HomePod. I think we all know there is going to be a tradeoff.
 
Could these be paired and used as speakers for a Mac?
I have this question too. I tried using a HomePad for that (and intended to get a second for stereo). However, it was never in synch with video. I did a bit of research online, and people generally said that was inevitable and it is not designed to be used like that. So, I sold mine.
 
Plus, they'd need speakers as good as the better of the two speakers.

Otherwise it's like comparing a black and white TV to a color TV in a black and white video.
I always found it hilarious when theyd run TV ads on TV - if you look at it and think, “wow, that picture on their screen looks amazing”, then you don’t need it.
 
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I feel that it not being able to access 4 of the top 5 most popular radio stations in the UK (BBC) might hold it back a little here. Not sure if this is down to Apple or the BBC? Amazon and Google speakers can play them as far as I'm aware.

I know Siri will reply something like “Now playing Heart Radio 90s from TuneIn” but am fairly sure a couple of years back the BBC revoked access to TuneIn so that could well explain why.
 
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