The speed of the TouchID on the 5S and the 6 was the same but the reliability was not. The 6/+ sensor was far more reliable than the one on the 5S. I am familiar with both.
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First Impressions Roundup: iPhone SE and 9.7" iPad Pro
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Well, the pricing here in Belgium blew the iPhone SE out of the water, especially when the iPhone 7 will be released.
€589 for the 64 iPhone SE against €749 for the 64 iPhone 6S, but that will be lowered to €639 at the release of the iPhone 7.
So only €50 difference between the same technology in a different form factor...
While I loved my 5S design (and thus also like the SE), with only a €50 price difference I would choose the 6S.
If Apple would have priced the iPhone SE at €499, it would be more compatative and I would have gone for the iPhone SE.
€589 for the 64 iPhone SE against €749 for the 64 iPhone 6S, but that will be lowered to €639 at the release of the iPhone 7.
So only €50 difference between the same technology in a different form factor...
While I loved my 5S design (and thus also like the SE), with only a €50 price difference I would choose the 6S.
If Apple would have priced the iPhone SE at €499, it would be more compatative and I would have gone for the iPhone SE.
Ahahahahahahaha.
Oh wait, you were serious? Let me laugh even harder.
A "downgrade" from what exactly? I'm listening.
Seeing as processor R&D, tooling, and manufacturing lines cost hundreds of millions in total investment, I HIGHLY doubt that Apple has done so just to reduce the amount of RAM in the SE. Economies of scale and supply chain management would make it common sense to use the same A9 across the line for the iPhones.
But again, who knows!?
It's a great game. It's even a universal app now, so you can play it on everything from a 4" iPhone to a large screen connected to the Apple TV 4. Fantastic on the 7ft projection screen in my home theater setup.Thanks YOU! I've been looking for almost a year. 3.99 ain't bad.
Yea, like they can do all the R&D and ramp up production in that short amount of time. This has been in the works for at least a year. In fact, they have probably been sitting on it for a while so it wouldn't canabalise 6S sales.
Cheap = fair = market value = ???
But honestly if anyone has a 5s that they no longer need that works on Verizon and is in great shape, send me a message or something.
Can I even do that on here? If not please just delete Mr. Admin. And my apologies for ignorance.
Ha, yeah, a slightly upgraded model where tests have shown it's slightly faster than the current flagship model. And the iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus come with 16GB, so why were you expecting a "mid-tier" model to come with anything more than 32GB as the baseline model?
I agree that in 2016 it's shocking that 16GB is still an option but Apple have yet to reveal their storage options for their 2016 flagship model, iPhone 7, I'm hoping for 32GB, 128GB and 256GB.
I am SO going to get one. Don't know what I'll do but this was my favourite design. And in rose gold!!!! Come to mama, baby!!!!❤❤❤❤
The smaller iPhone is actually surprising good news. Those who longed for the iPhone they were used to got their wish in a BIG way (pun intended).
Is Apple listening to its customers? FINALLY??
Hopefully we'll see more "SE" products other than iPhones (but I highly doubt it).
I'd KILL for an SE 17" MBP. I'd even settle for a 13", like the ancient one they still sell for full price. Or my all-time favorite, a tablelamp iMac. Huminahuminahumina.
Upgrade them with the latest processors/graphics and ports and Apple might keep me for the forseeable future. I'd even be willing to wait for a 3-month build time if they were to decide to go BTO-only.
Still, congrats to you small-phone fans. You have been gifted with something REALLY RARE: Apple giving you what you want.
Tim, if you want to differentiate yourself from Jobs, THIS is the way to do it.
Is Apple listening to its customers? FINALLY??
Hopefully we'll see more "SE" products other than iPhones (but I highly doubt it).
I'd KILL for an SE 17" MBP. I'd even settle for a 13", like the ancient one they still sell for full price. Or my all-time favorite, a tablelamp iMac. Huminahuminahumina.
Upgrade them with the latest processors/graphics and ports and Apple might keep me for the forseeable future. I'd even be willing to wait for a 3-month build time if they were to decide to go BTO-only.
Still, congrats to you small-phone fans. You have been gifted with something REALLY RARE: Apple giving you what you want.
Tim, if you want to differentiate yourself from Jobs, THIS is the way to do it.
I want Rose Gold as well, but everyone says it's too 'girly'. I don't like labels like that. What are your thoughts?
The SE is a premium product with modern specs.
And I never called you ignorant. I called you unreasonable. But after reading the bold sentence above, I am having second thoughts. They are never going to squeeze all of the features of a 6s Plus into a 4" 6s even if they wanted to. Not without making some major sacrifices. And that's true for every single product in Apple's catalogue. The old beloved 17" MacBook Pro was a perfect example. It had features that were simply not available on the smaller MBPs -- and it's not because Apple was withholding something, it's because the features physically wouldn't fit.
Now for the practical -- there's no way in the world that Apple is going to introduce a new product, that has better features than their current flagship, not in a phone size that only sold 30 million units last year. They are also not going to release next generation iPhone features 6 months before the 7 series is released, nor would I expect them to invest a single cent more to continue the 6 series design style which also comes to an end in 6 months. Better to put all of their resources into the next generation which has two years in front of it. So rather than reengineer the 6s to fit into a 4" phone, what they did makes a lot of sense. Being frustrated because it's missing a few minor features, not just from the 6s, but the 6s Plus no less, and now saying you want it not just to have parity with the largest iPhone Apple sells, but also the largest most technically advanced iPad Pro Apple sells is extraordinarily unreasonable, nor is it very well thought out. Even the iPhone 7 won't have all of the features of the iPad Pro, if for no other reason than they all won't physically fit within the enclosure.
That's reality.
Whatever you may think Apple used to do, there were always choices a customer had to make. This fantasy of every product having feature parity regardless of the form factor is really unrealistic, and an unreasonable expectation at best. I realize you're disappointed, and understand why. All I'm suggesting is that you look at this reasonably. You're never going to get the phone you want from Apple, and that wouldn't be any different if this were the old Apple or the new -- simply because it's just not yet possible. There are things I don't like about the SE -- I wish it were a few mm thinner. I wish it had 6s design cues, I wish it had more available storage, I wish the FaceTime camera was better. But I don't really care about 3D Touch, or a better display (having had no problems with my 5s), which are about the only other features that aren't comparable to the 6s. Using your logic, no one should buy a new iPhone even a month after its released because technology is improving every day. A person who buys 6 month old technology for the same price it was introduced is getting a bad deal. So the only solution is for Apple to constantly upgrade every aspect of the iPhone every month as new technology becomes available. Which I guess makes sense for someone who is willing to pay whatever the cost, and must have the latest, greatest technology at all times. But that's not practical for any other business or product.
In the end, even though I'm willing to pay $650 for a 4" 6s, Apple is only asking me to pay $400 to accept these compromises. And that's enough to appease my realistic disappointment. Moreover, I'm expecting Apple to come out with a 7SE in a year, which will not only look like the 7, but also have similar feature parity to the 7, and I will expect to pay for it accordingly. Meanwhile, Apple has given me almost the equivalent of the 6s, and is charging me almost half as much, surely knowing that even the current flagship will be outdated in less than 6 months. It's a brilliant business move because it doesn't commit them to a phone that would only have 6 months of maximum profitability, if that, and encourages them to offer a flagship replacement much sooner, while giving them a phone with excellent features to depreciate over the next 3 years.
I don't know about you, but I'm going to go on the Apple monthly payment plan when I buy the SE next week, and in 12 to 18 months when they hopefully introduce a new 4" 7 premium design, I'll upgrade, turning in my SE which will get refurbished and re-sold to someone who will get an amazing entry level phone and an even more bargain basement price than I got it new. And I'll get everything I want within reasonable expectation. And I won't care that a new 4" phone potentially released 6 months after the 7, doesn't have better specs, nor will I be concerned that in another 6 months a brand new phone will come out with better specs. As long as the phone does what I need it to do at that moment, it doesn't matter. If I'm really lucky, they'll release a new 4" 7 in September, and if I'm really unlucky, it'll be 18 months when the 7s comes out. But that's a much better prospect than not having a 4" upgrade at all until then, and having lived without one for the past 18 months. But that's the nature of tech.
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You have really lost it.
Se has the best iPhone camera(front and back available) , ok no ois that is in an iPhone that is twice as big and twice as expensive.
For the a9x, are you kidding? Apple manages to put in a soc that is faster than the s7 and as fast as 6+ and these are the fastest around.
An a9x with 4gb that is only in the biggest 13 inch iPad ? You should read anandtech' s article. The chip is so big, it wouldn' t even fit in the se.
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You are wrong.
iPad Pro with a9x was announced at the press conference before the iPhone 6s with an a9.
So technically iPad Pro was announced and after that iPhone 6s with a9.
The a9 is their latest cpu
I am getting good one. I know I've got a 6s Plus but I'm getting one.The smaller iPhone is actually surprising good news. Those who longed for the iPhone they were used to got their wish in a BIG way (pun intended).
Is Apple listening to its customers? FINALLY??
Hopefully we'll see more "SE" products other than iPhones (but I highly doubt it).
I'd KILL for an SE 17" MBP. I'd even settle for a 13", like the ancient one they still sell for full price. Or my all-time favorite, a tablelamp iMac. Huminahuminahumina.
Upgrade them with the latest processors/graphics and ports and Apple might keep me for the forseeable future. I'd even be willing to wait for a 3-month build time if they were to decide to go BTO-only.
Still, congrats to you small-phone fans. You have been gifted with something REALLY RARE: Apple giving you what you want.
Tim, if you want to differentiate yourself from Jobs, THIS is the way to do it.
Cheap end ? Are you serious ? The iPhone SE still cost more than 500€ in Europe....
Cheaper than an iPhone 6S doesn't mean "cheap end" by any means...
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So sell more hardware to more people means killing Apple. Interesting concept.
I'm glad you are not Apple 's CEO.
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On another thread you were the one calling 3D Touch as irrelevant (because Samsung hasn't it) and here you are asking where is 3D Touch on the iPhone SE.
Because here it became relevant.
Lol.
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I have both (actually the 6 was sold a couple months ago) and I couldn't see any difference in reliability. iPhone 5S TouchID works just fine.
I've seen young men with the rose gold and they rocked it. If you're on the shy side, it may not be a good idea. If you're more willing to push the envelope, why not?
Personally I wouldn't be bothered if a man of mine carried one.
I was stunned that 95% of the presentation was leaked way beforehand. Usually stuff leaks and we have ideas but Apple usually has some surprises or "one last thing". The True Tone color thing for ipad is neat, and I expect that to possibly come to iphone 7. The first half of the presentation was boring . Blah , Green Tech, Blah, Environment, Blah Blah Recycling. I recycle and try to be green but damn that part of the presentation dragged on . Apple and Nintendo should have presented MiiTomo iphone game/app to the west for the ' one last thing' considering that Nintendo just released the app last week in Japan. Missed opportunities by both Nintendo and Apple to make this presentation really shine
[doublepost=1458681282][/doublepost]I so hope that the iPhone releases in the Fall come earlier than before, maintain the large size and come in pure white color . I did not think I would like an all white phone, but it really stands out and is quite beautiful.
Apple today provided members of the press with hands-on time using the iPhone SE and 9.7" iPad Pro, and first impressions of the new products are beginning to surface across the web. Below is a roundup of some of the more interesting observations and opinions about the new smartphone and tablet.
iPhone SE
The Verge said the iPhone SE "finally makes a small phone feel powerful," which is unsurprising given it is essentially an iPhone 6s shrunk down into an iPhone 5s form factor. The 4-inch smartphone is powered by a 64-bit A9 chip with M9 motion co-processor, which is up to twice as fast as the iPhone 5s. Other features are outlined in our iPhone SE announcement coverage.
TechnoBuffalo described the iPhone SE's top five new features as its 4-inch screen size, $399 starting price, 4K video recording, Live Photos support, and full Apple Pay support without needing an Apple Watch.
Business Insider highlighted how Apple used more scratch resistant materials for the iPhone SE shell, meaning it should not be prone to scratches and scuffs as easily as the iPhone 5s. This includes matte-chamfered edges and a slightly different aluminum backing with a color-matching Apple logo.More: Ars Technica, Engadget, TechRadar, and SlashGear
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I'm a big fan of the 4" phone size so very happy Apple has released a well-priced model with decent specs.
From the perspective of a corporate drone, however, it's unfortunate that a 16gb base model was released. My company pays for my phone and plan, but will only supply the base iPhone model (16gb is more than enough to fulfill business needs, i.e. e-mail). I imagine many other people in similar positions to my own will be forced to endure a company supplied 16gb model #firstworldproblems
From the perspective of a corporate drone, however, it's unfortunate that a 16gb base model was released. My company pays for my phone and plan, but will only supply the base iPhone model (16gb is more than enough to fulfill business needs, i.e. e-mail). I imagine many other people in similar positions to my own will be forced to endure a company supplied 16gb model #firstworldproblems
Some of these comments are baffling. I can only assume that people talking like this actively begrudge others the choice of a smaller phone, because otherwise I can't make any sense of the attitude.
I was going to say, there's a $300 difference in price in Canada, I'd be surprised if things were that different elsewhere.
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