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First iPhone 16e Benchmark Reveals Impact of Reduced GPU Core Count
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Yeah, the upcoming iPad 11 could use one of this binned A18 chips, if it wasn’t because the iPad mini is using a previous gen chip, the A17 Pro. Also binned, if I recall correctly.
The only people who would care, are some here on MR who had no intention of buying the phone. Said people take pride in complaining about everything for the sake of spec chasing.
Overpriced with b-rated components. This is not entry level this is scraps put together and presented and entry level. And in markets other than US, where it costs 700+ USD, you can buy android phone that eats this one for breakfast. This phone will not be successful.
someone explain why the iPhone 11 is faster than the se 2 but it has the same chip...
That's why the iPhone is TrashEEEEEEEEEEE
The first Geekbench score for Apple's new iPhone 16e has surfaced, revealing the performance impact of Apple's decision to use a binned version of the A18 chip with fewer GPU cores compared to the standard iPhone 16 models.
According to Geekbench 6 Metal benchmark results spotted by MySmartPrice, the iPhone 16e scored 24,188 points in graphics testing, which is around 15% lower than the more expensive iPhone 16 and iPhone 16 Plus. This performance difference is likely due to Apple's use of a chip-binned A18 chip. Chip binning is a common industry practice where chips with disabled or non-functional components are repurposed for lower-tier products. This approach helps manufacturers maximize yield and reduce waste while offering products at different price points.
In this case, the A18 chip in the iPhone 16e features a 4-core GPU configuration, compared to the 5-core GPU found in the standard iPhone 16 and iPhone 16 Plus. However, as the Geekbench test shows, the 6-core CPU count remains unchanged.
Despite the reduced GPU performance, the iPhone 16e is expected to maintain strong overall performance, especially for its $599 starting price point. The Geekbench test also corroborates our previous finding that the iPhone 6e has 8GB of RAM, which is a minimum requirement of Apple Intelligence. The device tested was running iOS 18.3.1.
Of course, further benchmark results and real-world testing will be needed to fully assess the impact of the reduced GPU core count on everyday tasks and gaming performance. Apple will be accepting pre-orders for the iPhone 16e starting today at 5 a.m. Pacific Time, and the device launches on Friday, February 28 in 59 countries and regions.
Article Link: First iPhone 16e Benchmark Reveals Impact of Reduced GPU Core Count
Depends on the way the phone is tested, but I guess it’s because the SE is smaller causing it to heat up faster, so it will throttle faster as well.
And since the battery is smaller Apple might have done some software tweaks to preserve battery.
It's the most affordable iPhone. For that reason alone, it will be successful.
I will reply to myself: the A17 Pro on the iPhone 15 Pro, as well as the A18 on the regular iPhone 16, both have a metal GPU score of around 27.300 to 27.700. So the iPhone 16e would have a lower performance.
On the other hand, the iPhone 15 with an A16 SoC has a score of 22.770 points, almost 22.800 points.
With the binned A18 on the iPhone 16e being at 24.00 points, that would put it barely above the iPhone 15, although with RayTracing integrated.
Wonder how that would impact Death Stranding, Assassins Creed, and the Resident Evil series of games.
The SE 3 was the most affordable iPhone and even its launch year, it sold the worst out of all the 8 models available.
That said, I think the 16e will sell much better, despite the pricing having gone up. Even though they raised the price, it's worth it because they addressed the two biggest problems with the SE 3, which is screen size and battery life.
Call me suspicious, but why would a Geekbench report be titled 17,5 for a 16e? Additionally to report the following and make sense I am questioning this: "Chip binning is a common industry practice where chips with disabled or non-functional components are repurposed for lower-tier products. This approach helps manufacturers maximize yield and reduce waste while offering products at different price points."
Where does it state that parts have been reduced to save cost? To disable is not to reduce cost as I understand it. Sound like the sense of non-sense.
Also this "In this case, the A18 chip in the iPhone 16e features a 4-core GPU configuration, compared to the 5-core GPU found in the standard iPhone 16 and iPhone 16 Plus. However, as the Geekbench test shows, the 6-core CPU count remains unchanged." This sounds like non-sense too,. How does a 4-core become a 6-core, when it's not in the report?
This sounds like a rush to publication rather than clear and concise data but maybe I'm missing something
Where does it state that parts have been reduced to save cost? To disable is not to reduce cost as I understand it. Sound like the sense of non-sense.
Also this "In this case, the A18 chip in the iPhone 16e features a 4-core GPU configuration, compared to the 5-core GPU found in the standard iPhone 16 and iPhone 16 Plus. However, as the Geekbench test shows, the 6-core CPU count remains unchanged." This sounds like non-sense too,. How does a 4-core become a 6-core, when it's not in the report?
This sounds like a rush to publication rather than clear and concise data but maybe I'm missing something
Parts have not been reduced. They are instead making money on less-functional parts that otherwise would have been thrown away. Apple can't charge full price for a core-disabled A18, but charging a reduced price is better than having to throw it in the trash. This is standard practice in tech. See: any nVidia card other than top-of-the-line, which are all made with the same processor die with varying numbers of cores disabled due to manufacturing defects.
For your second question, you've ignored the difference between the CPU and GPU. CPU handles normal computing tasks, GPU handles graphics tasks. The CPU is six cores (same as regular A18, none disabled), while the GPU is four cores (one core disabled relative to regular A18).
It's an entry level phone meant to hit a price point
I'm not sure why lower performance would surprise anyone
It doesn't even have MagSafe or Ultra Wideband support for goodness sake
Corners were cut, by design
I'm not sure why lower performance would surprise anyone
It doesn't even have MagSafe or Ultra Wideband support for goodness sake
Corners were cut, by design
iPhone17,5 - Geekbench
Benchmark results for an iPhone17,5 with an ARM processor.
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3412/8270 Geekbench CPU. The performance is amazing. That's spitting distance of M1 multi-core, and way, way faster single-core.
FIFY
A lot of complaining and whining around here
So a used 15 Pro right now would run circles around the iPhone 16e:
• Faster
• Two more cameras: 0.5 wide-angle and 3x optical zoom
• Sensor-shift optical image stabilization on the main 48MP camera
• Dynamic Island
• MagSafe
• Same action button
• Same Apple Intelligence and Visual Intelligence features
• Same price at $600 unlocked now
Only way 16e is better is battery life.
I'd say the net differences are worth at least $300. This would be consistent with a $900 price if Apple were to sell the 15 Pro new, which would also situate it appropriately between current new prices for the 16 and 16 Pro. So basically right now you can get a used 15 Pro in good condition at a 33% discount to its new value. Put another way, by buying a new 16e, one accepts 33% less value than buying a used 15 Pro.
• Faster
• Two more cameras: 0.5 wide-angle and 3x optical zoom
• Sensor-shift optical image stabilization on the main 48MP camera
• Dynamic Island
• MagSafe
• Same action button
• Same Apple Intelligence and Visual Intelligence features
• Same price at $600 unlocked now
Only way 16e is better is battery life.
I'd say the net differences are worth at least $300. This would be consistent with a $900 price if Apple were to sell the 15 Pro new, which would also situate it appropriately between current new prices for the 16 and 16 Pro. So basically right now you can get a used 15 Pro in good condition at a 33% discount to its new value. Put another way, by buying a new 16e, one accepts 33% less value than buying a used 15 Pro.