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NYF

macrumors newbie
Original poster
Jun 1, 2011
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"We have received notification of a violation (DMCA, SPAM, etc.) for an IP address that was tracked back to your network port. The violation is listed below, if it is not, or you have questions you may contact the GRU.Net Network Operations Center at 352-334-3000. It should be noted that a DMCA notification is a violation of the federal Digital Millennium Copyright Act, Section 512 of Title 17 of the U.S. Code. No legal action is being taken at this time; however, legal action may be sought by the owners of the copyrighted material." -Love (not really) ISP

What's my next step?

Let me be clear to prevent confusion, I know the risks of BT (bittorrenting) and some of the preventative actions used to get away with it. BUT, that does not involve legal action/best defense etc. and preventative actions do not guarantee anything. I'm here for a possible best next step.

If you read through this similar instance you can find some solid answers from "MikeLaRiviere" that are some what comforting: https://forums.macrumors.com/archive/index.php/t-82158.html My case is different though for a few reasons:

1) I have a positive ratio on my Demonoid account with hundreds of GB's in sharing (which users cannot delete)

2) 80-90% of those files downloaded were movies/shows

3) my internet is through an apartment complex in a major college town, so I personally do NOT have access to my ethernet modem/router.

4) Unlike the thread above, I never signed or admitted to anything, thus leaving my ethernet connection unusable, but my roommates crappy wireless intact. (port blocked by ISP)

5) I was NEVER charged or anything, I have only received the ISP generic "we believe" digital message.

That being said, I am very curious about two overall issues, how do I get my ethernet back without admitting to anything? and what step should I take next having not signed or admitting to anything, which I probably will never do for my own best interest.

I'm more scared about the idea of my ISP or Paramount (in this case) knowing of my download history. Though, the claim in the message was only for "Rango", which I downloaded with slim interest.

I can post the message I received if need be.

PS- I use Utorrent with proxifier and Tor/Vivaldia when I download. I also try not to seed movies at all.
 
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StruckANerve

macrumors 6502
Dec 31, 2008
392
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Rio Rancho, NM
Scrape together as much cash as you can and start purchasing hard copies of everything you can. Use cash though. That way at least if they subpoena you you can claim you were just backing up media you already physically purchased. Not sure if that will help but it will be hard to argue that you "stole" anything.
 

NYF

macrumors newbie
Original poster
Jun 1, 2011
2
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maybe I should admit it and hope not to get sued...
 

yg17

macrumors Pentium
Aug 1, 2004
15,024
2,967
St. Louis, MO
Dont admit. Tell them you dont know how it happened and show them your computer (a different one obviously) that doesnt have the files. They can look at the MAC address to determin it wasnt your computer and you can get back your internet.

No they can't. Your computer's MAC address doesn't go past your router. Each time a packet goes through a router, the MAC address of the source is stripped off and replaced with the MAC of that router. Your computer's MAC is never seen by a remote host. The MAC address used for downloading torrents is unknown to the ISP or the torrent site - all they have is an IP address.
 

cherry su

macrumors 65816
Feb 28, 2008
1,217
1
No they can't. Your computer's MAC address doesn't go past your router. Each time a packet goes through a router, the MAC address of the source is stripped off and replaced with the MAC of that router. Your computer's MAC is never seen by a remote host. The MAC address used for downloading torrents is unknown to the ISP or the torrent site - all they have is an IP address.

Then, if it is possible, change the MAC address on your router. It should be pretty easy if the router is running some form of linux (ifconfig for the win).
 

yg17

macrumors Pentium
Aug 1, 2004
15,024
2,967
St. Louis, MO
Then, if it is possible, change the MAC address on your router. It should be pretty easy if the router is running some form of linux (ifconfig for the win).

The MAC address of your router doesn't get out.

Each time a packet goes through a router, the MAC on the packet changes. A packet goes through several routers. By the time it gets to the destination, the MAC on the packet is of the router closest to the destination - probably a router in some datacenter that the server is connected to. If you forget about redundancy with multiple routers for a second, all packets going into a server on the internet have the same MAC address - the MAC of their nearest router.
 

r1ch4rd

macrumors 6502a
Aug 5, 2005
980
1
Manchester UK
Then, if it is possible, change the MAC address on your router. It should be pretty easy if the router is running some form of linux (ifconfig for the win).

The MAC address of your router is only visible up until the next router the packets travel through. The MAC address is meant for local addressing, not on a global scale .

EDIT: yg17 beat me to it!
 
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