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Got a Neo. First proper use of macOS since High Sierra. So surprised at how bad the user experience has become. Mad inconsistency between how app windows appear, a lot of lost customisation and things being locked down - can't delete built-in apps or even the localisation packages within them; have to fish madly through settings to find where things live - plus not that keen on the new ipadOS-like appearance of the settings, or the fact that the window can't be wider! Spotlight settings are totally broken on a brand new machine, don't even load without deleting caches and restarting, and then deleting them again and restarting every time you log out. I never really cared for Spotlight, but it did used to actually function!

Window inconsistency is about as bad as back in the brushed metal days. Some apps respect the awful new shaved corners while others don't bother, most at least respect the light or dark mode settings, but Games is like nah this is the dark side no matter what. The old distinction between square-cornered popup inspector panes and rounded permanent windows is gone. Resolution settings are hidden by default and that results in very blurry font smoothing by default, which is mad when that used to be an Apple hallmark all the way back since 10.1.5! Oh, and, liquid ass, need I say more?

Then with resolution set properly, which is lovely in terms of screen real estate, Finder list view still only gives two tiny icon size options. I mean it used to be okay with lower dpi screens, but now it's bonkers, especially as icon scaling is also one of the old hallmarks! At least now you can save the column layout easily, name - kind - size - modified should be the default anyway, but it no longer saves preference for window size and location so I had to remove the size column to get the content to fit. Oh, and it still doesn't actually "calculate all sizes" with that option turned on, but that's a 25-year-old but at this point. I guess there's a reason Windows doesn't offer that lol. At least Apple borrowed snap functionality from Windows, one of its best features, but they did it very half-assedly! No option for thirds or more complex layouts, and poor UI for making changes, not to mention still no way to just disable fullscreen completely, when it is the single worst feature in macOS, leading to confusion for all older users, meaning that one hasn't been able to suggest a Mac to parents in about 15 years ... well except for with Boot Camp, and we can't even do that anymore lol.

Can't turn off built-in fonts, even those of different scripts; can't set QuickTime to autoplay videos, which used to be a simple defaults write command but no longer exists somehow. QuickTime seems kind of abandoned 🙁. Music app is at least better than how bloated iTunes had got, but it still has mad issues using the actual user Music folder, insisting on putting a music folder inside the music folder. Music-ception! Still, it is better than iTunes on Windows, which still imposes a 31-character limit on filenames, and won't let you rename a file while it is playing. MacOS has always been more forgiving in such regards, but I have to wonder if even that will go soon, what with all the locking down and removal of user free will. Think different seems to have taken on a much darker meaning since I was last using the OS.

And in this time period they are trying to attract heaps of new users at the low price end of the market. I guess they are relying on them being blind? It really is a shame about the Boot Camp thing, because the Neo would be a great cheap Windows laptop, and Windows 11 is pretty incredible, especially since they finally ditched the **** start menu with pinned recommendations - and they're even going to allow renaming the user folder on install soon, one of the real bugbears of that OS.
While your opinion is appreciated, what exactly does this have anything to do with macOS 26.5 Beta 1 in specific?
Almost nothing you listed is exclusive to 26.5 Beta 1, or 26 in general.
Most of these complaints date back to Mojave, Catalina, Big Sur or Ventura
 
I'd put in a vote for Lion here. It felt like it undid everything Snow Leopard tied up in a bow.

Yep, Lion was so bad I downgraded to SL back in the day.

Tahoe has horrible design and lags opening a sidebar (tested this with Apple Store Macs from the Neo to the M5 Max MBP just last Saturday), so it's not far behind. How is there no quality control at Apple anymore?

Got a Neo. First proper use of macOS since High Sierra. So surprised at how bad the user experience has become. Mad inconsistency between how app windows appear, a lot of lost customisation and things being locked down - can't delete built-in apps or even the localisation packages within them; have to fish madly through settings to find where things live - plus not that keen on the new ipadOS-like appearance of the settings, or the fact that the window can't be wider! Spotlight settings are totally broken on a brand new machine, don't even load without deleting caches and restarting, and then deleting them again and restarting every time you log out. I never really cared for Spotlight, but it did used to actually function!

Window inconsistency is about as bad as back in the brushed metal days. Some apps respect the awful new shaved corners while others don't bother, most at least respect the light or dark mode settings, but Games is like nah this is the dark side no matter what. The old distinction between square-cornered popup inspector panes and rounded permanent windows is gone. Resolution settings are hidden by default and that results in very blurry font smoothing by default, which is mad when that used to be an Apple hallmark all the way back since 10.1.5! Oh, and, liquid ass, need I say more?

Then with resolution set properly, which is lovely in terms of screen real estate, Finder list view still only gives two tiny icon size options. I mean it used to be okay with lower dpi screens, but now it's bonkers, especially as icon scaling is also one of the old hallmarks! At least now you can save the column layout easily, name - kind - size - modified should be the default anyway, but it no longer saves preference for window size and location so I had to remove the size column to get the content to fit. Oh, and it still doesn't actually "calculate all sizes" with that option turned on, but that's a 25-year-old but at this point. I guess there's a reason Windows doesn't offer that lol. At least Apple borrowed snap functionality from Windows, one of its best features, but they did it very half-assedly! No option for thirds or more complex layouts, and poor UI for making changes, not to mention still no way to just disable fullscreen completely, when it is the single worst feature in macOS, leading to confusion for all older users, meaning that one hasn't been able to suggest a Mac to parents in about 15 years ... well except for with Boot Camp, and we can't even do that anymore lol.

Can't turn off built-in fonts, even those of different scripts; can't set QuickTime to autoplay videos, which used to be a simple defaults write command but no longer exists somehow. QuickTime seems kind of abandoned 🙁. Music app is at least better than how bloated iTunes had got, but it still has mad issues using the actual user Music folder, insisting on putting a music folder inside the music folder. Music-ception! Still, it is better than iTunes on Windows, which still imposes a 31-character limit on filenames, and won't let you rename a file while it is playing. MacOS has always been more forgiving in such regards, but I have to wonder if even that will go soon, what with all the locking down and removal of user free will. Think different seems to have taken on a much darker meaning since I was last using the OS.

And in this time period they are trying to attract heaps of new users at the low price end of the market. I guess they are relying on them being blind? It really is a shame about the Boot Camp thing, because the Neo would be a great cheap Windows laptop, and Windows 11 is pretty incredible, especially since they finally ditched the **** start menu with pinned recommendations - and they're even going to allow renaming the user folder on install soon, one of the real bugbears of that OS.

macOS has regressed immensely in many areas from UI design, UX, polish, performance, simplicity over the years. I fully agree with your points.

The only reason Apple gets almost no scrutiny from the general public is that Microsoft has been busy destroying the little good faith they still had with Windows.
 
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While your opinion is appreciated, what exactly does this have anything to do with macOS 26.5 Beta 1 in specific?
Almost nothing you listed is exclusive to 26.5 Beta 1, or 26 in general.
Most of these complaints date back to Mojave, Catalina, Big Sur or Ventura
Oh good to know. As said, I hadn't used macOS since High Sierra. That was on my 2010 MacBook Air, and it had mainly been used as a Boot Camp machine because I had switched to Vista after Lion came out ... so I wasn't familiar with how long the latest slew of bugs had been about; rather I had just heard negativity around Tahoe specifically, and my issues are Tahoe-based experiences. Apologies for any inconvenience caused!
 
Or they have issues you don't? Windows Me ran rock solid for me, but I also don't deny it was trash for most people.

Have you really read the comments before? And yes, certainly there are bugs like in any other OS and especially in a beta version. But in most cases these bugs are corner cases or not even a bug. I use my MacBook Pro for personal and business use and there is not one single bug that prevents me from using it.

Nowadays a forum like this is more about getting attention than anything else. Unfortunately.
 
@Tranel I see a bug every 5 seconds on my Mac, while they don't prevent it from working, it's such a unsatisfactory state of things.
 
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Dock Folder jump issue still not fixed (when Dock Magnification is enabled, the Dock Folder abruptly jumps approx. 10-15pixels down as the user moves the cursor after a brief pause). FB20761846.

We are at 26.5 - it's simply amazing that the UI still has basic and highly obvious bugs like this.

 
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I'm sticking with Sequoia and will skip Tahoe altogether.
I'm going to attempt to do the same. Also on iPhone/iPad with 18 vs 26 (but much more apprehensive in doing so since Apple has decided to asininely restrict updates which have significant security implications.) Liquid Glass and the overall (lack of) quality of Apple's OSes is simply no longer something I want to use.

Also worth pointing out that Apple YET AGAIN has saddled their customers who still own Intel Macs, for whatever reason (but likely financial, the least fortunate among us), with a turd of an operating system. This consistently occurs… so at this point no one should be under the illusion that it is just coincidence with Apple. They're doing it on purpose. 'Spite' is just a terrible look for a company that leverages the 'moral mission' PR narrative that Apple has lived on. Such a sad legacy that Tim Cook and his greedy flunkies have led our beloved company to.
 
Or they have issues you don't? Windows Me ran rock solid for me, but I also don't deny it was trash for most people.
LOL - you were definitely in the minority on that one. Vista felt like an improvement on Windows ME, though back in that era I was pretty deeply invested in Windows 2000, which felt rock solid despite some mistakes in the early Beta program.
 
fixed adblockers knocking out mail and safari , no update however for the M1 Mac mini 2020 512gb/16gb model but is an update for the M1 Pro MacBook 2021
 
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