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I don't give a monkeys if there is a ballistic missile heading for London, or some Londoner is on a rampage killing other Londoners for whatever daft reason, that doesn't affect me in the slightest.

The point of these is that they're localised. You won't get alerts in Scotland for an emergency that only affects London. Unless they screw it up, of course.
 
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The point of these is that they're localised. You won't get alerts in Scotland for an emergency that only affects London. Unless they screw it up, of course.

They'll push out notices of 'national importance', forgetting that England isn't the entire nation and that something happening in England isn't important. I very much can see if someone has a sneeze in London we all need too hear about it, but if Sheffield is under water again it'll go unnoticed. And that's just events in England.
 
I support these if they are provided by each countries government. I don't give a monkeys if there is a ballistic missile heading for London, or some Londoner is on a rampage killing other Londoners for whatever daft reason, that doesn't affect me in the slightest. I care about my own country. And even still, it should be opt in. When Covid started we were bombarded with notifications from both the Scottish government and then the English government repeating the same messages and sending out unsolicited text messages that they have still to apologise for nor have someone take responsibility with repercussions.
If a ballistic missile was to hit London today it would have very real consequences for me in Glasgow, regardless of whether there is a hard or soft border between us and England. I could have family, friends, business colleagues in the immediate vicinity, or it could be that the whole United Kingdom will probably be going to war which would have a massive affect on the whole country.

You are just coming across as petty. The Uk Gov failing to apologise for sending messages at the height of worldwide pandemic that's killed thousands of people in Scotland, and you want repercussions?!

Gie's peace!
 
I support these if they are provided by each countries government. I don't give a monkeys if there is a ballistic missile heading for London, or some Londoner is on a rampage killing other Londoners for whatever daft reason, that doesn't affect me in the slightest. I care about my own country. And even still, it should be opt in. When Covid started we were bombarded with notifications from both the Scottish government and then the English government repeating the same messages and sending out unsolicited text messages that they have still to apologise for nor have someone take responsibility with repercussions.
If London was nuked, you can bet your bottom dollar you'll be affected by it. What a ludicrous, selfish, and cruel statement to make.

Could you elaborate on what notifications you were "bombarded" with? I received one SMS notification from "UK_Gov", then a letter from the UK Government through the door. There was another one from the Scottish government, but as far as I could tell, it was a find / replace job on "Prime Minister" to "First Minister" - a huge waste of money.

The text messages were absolutely not unsolicited at all, they were an essential communication... who or why would anyone make an apology for an essential communication?
 
You are just coming across as petty. The Uk Gov failing to apologise for sending messages at the height of worldwide pandemic that's killed thousands of people in Scotland, and you want repercussions?!

I did not opt in to having strangers send me messages. My phone is for me to read emails and the web on the go, not for people to contact me nor send me unsolicited text messages.

If a ballistic missile was to hit London today it would have very real consequences for me in Glasgow, regardless of whether there is a hard or soft border between us and England. I could have family, friends, business colleagues in the immediate vicinity, or it could be that the whole United Kingdom will probably be going to war which would have a massive affect on the whole country.
And you won't hear about this on the news, the web, Apple news, newspapers? Do you need a text message forced into your phone? With all those other options, you have choices of how you want to hear about important news and how you choose to filter it. The text message the English government sent out to everyone was not optional, there, was no opt-in required and no opt-out link. No one asked if me if I wanted my number shared with that organisation.

I can't fathom why you are ok with having such messages forced on you. It is up to the individual if they want to give a monkeys about what is going on out of their own countries borders.

The text messages were absolutely not unsolicited at all, they were an essential communication... who or why would anyone make an apology for an essential communication?

I did not once give that government nor any other permission to contact me. It therefor is an unsolicited message. It had absolutely no relevance to me, it is up to the Scottish government to lockdown the country. And even then, they can do it without sending silly text messages I haven't subscribe too.
 
Considering the way Boris Johnson and his cabinet have handled Covid, it's probably more frightening to see an emergency alert knowing they are the ones handling it, as opposed to the disaster itself.
Still good to see the U.K. catching up to the 21st century.
I'm fairly sure with this government an accidental Vote Conservative message will be pushed out at the next election.
 
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If London was nuked, you can bet your bottom dollar you'll be affected by it. What a ludicrous, selfish, and cruel statement to make.

In what way does it affect me? It would be a tragic loss of life but no different than if a tidal wave hits India or the USA. In fact since we have some family in the USA that would be more of a concern. London is just another city.
 
I did not opt in to having strangers send me messages. My phone is for me to read emails and the web on the go, not for people to contact me nor send me unsolicited text messages.


And you won't hear about this on the news, the web, Apple news, newspapers? Do you need a text message forced into your phone? With all those other options, you have choices of how you want to hear about important news and how you choose to filter it. The text message the English government sent out to everyone was not optional, there, was no opt-in required and no opt-out link. No one asked if me if I wanted my number shared with that organisation.

I can't fathom why you are ok with having such messages forced on you. It is up to the individual if they want to give a monkeys about what is going on out of their own countries borders.



I did not once give that government nor any other permission to contact me. It therefor is an unsolicited message. It had absolutely no relevance to me, it is up to the Scottish government to lockdown the country. And even then, they can do it without sending silly text messages I haven't subscribe too.
How does the emergency message system know if you are a Scottish resident working in London, or an English resident visiting Scotland? Should you not be sent a message regarding one area of the United Kingdom because you aren't in it at that point in time? Do you want your mobile subscriber to be sharing your address details with every country you visit to make sure you don't receive critical messages?

Honestly, your argument doesn't hold any water whatsoever. If messages are sent that are not giving information that is safety related then I will 100% back you on what you say, but until then, every single person should get critical messages that may or may not affect the lives of the user or their families pushed to them.

Grow up. And I say that as someone who is pro-independence.
 
Extreme warning and severe warning? maybe in the UK you can tell which one is more intense just by those words but i’d turn both off just because the stupid word choice.
 
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In what way does it affect me? It would be a tragic loss of life but no different than if a tidal wave hits India or the USA. In fact since we have some family in the USA that would be more of a concern. London is just another city.
You are aware of the UK's nuclear submarine base at Faslane, yes? Probably the number one target for any foreign power that may attack the UK? If someone nuked London, Faslane would be attacked within minutes wiping out most of Scotland's population along with it.

I actually have pity for you with this staunch "England has nothing to do with me attitude".
 
I did not once give that government nor any other permission to contact me. It therefor is an unsolicited message. It had absolutely no relevance to me, it is up to the Scottish government to lockdown the country. And even then, they can do it without sending silly text messages I haven't subscribe too.
Irrelivent...? Yeah, COVID-19 got to the Scottish border and never bothered to go further. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

The government doesn't need to ask you for permission to send essential communications. Get a grip of yourself.
 
If London was nuked, you can bet your bottom dollar you'll be affected by it. What a ludicrous, selfish, and cruel statement to make.

Could you elaborate on what notifications you were "bombarded" with? I received one SMS notification from "UK_Gov", then a letter from the UK Government through the door. There was another one from the Scottish government, but as far as I could tell, it was a find / replace job on "Prime Minister" to "First Minister" - a huge waste of money.

The text messages were absolutely not unsolicited at all, they were an essential communication... who or why would anyone make an apology for an essential communication?

If I got a message about incoming nukes it wouldn’t help me at all. I die with angst about impending doom in ten minutes.

It would maybe be nice as a scott to hear that London will be nuked in ten minutes thou..
 
In what way does it affect me? It would be a tragic loss of life but no different than if a tidal wave hits India or the USA. In fact since we have some family in the USA that would be more of a concern. London is just another city.

Your benefits are likely to stop if no-one in London is alive to pay tax?

lol - kidding; I love the Jocks.
 
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How does the emergency message system know if you are a Scottish resident working in London, or an English resident visiting Scotland? Should you not be sent a message regarding one area of the United Kingdom because you aren't in it at that point in time? Do you want your mobile subscriber to be sharing your address details with every country you visit to make sure you don't receive critical messages?

Honestly, your argument doesn't hold any water whatsoever. If messages are sent that are not giving information that is safety related then I will 100% back you on what you say, but until then, every single person should get critical messages that may or may not affect the lives of the user or their families pushed to them.

Grow up. And I say that as someone who is pro-independence.

Easy solution, make it opt in and don't send messages to people who haven't opted in. At least with this system there is a way to opt-out. There was no opt-in nor opt-out when a mass of unsolicited text messages where sent out. I do not want to get any txt messages what so ever from any source on my phone. My phone is for browsing the web and reading emails.
 
Being from the UK; it's nice to see us getting on board with these alerts.

One extra alert every now and again isn't going to break the camels back is it - not with the sheer amount of other notifications we receive each day.

I was travelling in Canada once, and I received a notification about a child abduction in a city I was driving through. After speaking to a few locals in a bar later that night and doing some local news research, turns out the person at large was caught!!

I'm here for this!

[EDIT] Here's the Gov.uk release about this - https://www.gov.uk/alerts
As a Brit living in the US, everyone I know turns those irritating amber alerts off. I'm sorry your car was stolen but I'm not interested in getting pinged every day. Still get the important alerts like hurricanes or wild fires etc which is fine, but they start to become meaningless when it's for every little thing.
 
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You are aware of the UK's nuclear submarine base at Faslane, yes? Probably the number one target for any foreign power that may attack the UK? If someone nuked London, Faslane would be attacked within minutes wiping out most of Scotland's population along with it.

And if Faslane is attacked then I'll know about it though the news sources I wish to visit. I don't need nor want a txt message or push notification I haven't subscribed too.

I actually have pity for you with this staunch "England has nothing to do with me attitude".

I am not sure why, it isn't uncommon in humanity to care little for what goes on outside your own borders. What happens in England affects me as much and as little as events in France, the USA, Russia, Thailand, or even the middle of the ocean. Not one thing that happens there has any impact on my day to day life. It isn't like I am going to sing with joy if some terrorists attack them again, but at the same time I'd just go "Oh that was a shame" then read the next news story. If something happened in my own village you'll be damn sure I care about it and that I want to do something to help the situation. Local issues matter to me.

Regardless, the point I am making is that this should be opt in. Perhaps even a prompt so users can select if they want these notifications with information on why they are being sent, who by, and even a geofence.
 
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As a person who lives in Scotland, please be assured that this attitude is held by only a minority of bitter, angry, ignorant, toxic (and often, uneducated) Scottish nationalists.
Part of the reason I left the UK. Utterly despise the SNP and their supporters attitude towards England and much of what makes the country great. My best friend and his family are English, to me they are fellow countrymen.

Not too mention the damage they've done to budgets, education, and the economy. I'm just sorry so much of my family is still there living with Sturgeons dictats and the justice minister's outright racism and anti-free speech laws. Disgusting individuals.
 
And if Faslane is attacked then I'll know about it though the news sources I wish to visit. I don't need nor want a txt message or push notification I haven't subscribed too.
You know most of it is like 'Wildfire moving North along xyz, evacuate immediately' or 'Active shooter in xyz, stay in your homes'. They none amber alert warnings are actually a good thing. Sounds like you're just hateful of England.
 
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