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New engineering and research center? For what? To get Face ID and Touch ID under the screen? Or maybe to figure out how to get rid of the crease...

To their credit, they did finally just perfect crossfading on iOS.


jk...kinda
The article said for AI and AI related research.
 
Oh great, two huge motorways near by but no public transit, so all the people who work there have to use their cars to get there. Also the 3000 parking spaces will need ~390,000 sqft, which is more than 50 % of the planned office space. And people call this waste of space freedom.

The article mentions “garages” a couple of times, so I assumed that the 3000 spaces are not going to be on one level. That would be an enormous waste of space.
 
So, more building for people working from home? Or Apple will eliminate work from home altogether after the construction completes?
Besides, isn’t datacenter what Apple should build more rather than work spaces that few would use?
Anyway, good luck for future local residents buying properties there.
 
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I've lived here all my life, and for probably my entire life they've been pushing for a rail system. I remember reading an article in the paper when I was little (I loved trains) that said, I believe, a metro was slated to be finished by a certain date, I think it was early 2000's... I remember thinking "I'll be working by then!" Nope. Sat in traffic every day with everyone else on 40.

I'm fortunately to live relatively close to where I work but even then it's traffic traffic traffic all the way into the office.
 
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Bold move, with tech people not wanting to work in the office anymore, wonder how this will work with talent acquisition and retention, I work on XYZ for Apple when you have to commute and sit in a office when the other guys will let you work from home, plus the expenses of the building, power, insurance, ancillary staffing you wouldn’t need with a home based model

Seems between this and the ski goggles Apple is making some interesting moves



I've lived here all my life, and for probably my entire life they've been pushing for a rail system. I remember reading an article in the paper when I was little (I loved trains) that said, I believe, a metro was slated to be finished by a certain date, I think it was early 2000's... I remember thinking "I'll be working by then!" Nope. Sat in traffic every day with everyone else on 40.

I'm fortunately to live relatively close to where I work but even then it's traffic traffic traffic all the way into the office.

Having traveled a good bit, last thing I want is to ride a bus or train, they are good for shipping boxes and stuff though, I work hard to not have to be shipped via rail lol

Trains normally go the same progression, really cool, couple occasional drunk partiers, little bit of crime, moving bum complex

Making 200k a year, I’m sure demographics they workers will ride the thing and at some point someone’s going to get assaulted on it or barfed on and then no one will ride the train anymore
 
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I've lived here all my life, and for probably my entire life they've been pushing for a rail system. I remember reading an article in the paper when I was little (I loved trains) that said, I believe, a metro was slated to be finished by a certain date, I think it was early 2000's... I remember thinking "I'll be working by then!" Nope. Sat in traffic every day with everyone else on 40.

I'm fortunately to live relatively close to where I work but even then it's traffic traffic traffic all the way into the office.
Can you do 540?
 
The many critics here (like many dissatisfied Apple consumers ) are irrelevant. Apple became the richest company in the world by ignoring the many embittered complainers that are so pervasive in these forums.
 
They'll be paying engineers 200 K for how to get you the consumer to pay more for iCloud storage. 😄
 
The many critics here (like many dissatisfied Apple consumers ) are irrelevant. Apple became the richest company in the world by ignoring the many embittered complainers that are so pervasive in these forums.

Many on these forums spend more money with apple than the average person, so apple owes its success on people wanting their products
 
I don’t buy it. I think a high percentage of MacRumours Apple consumers are price resentful.

As they should be, but that’s everyone, people have short memories but it wasn’t that long ago that the X having a $1k price tag was mainstream media news
 
So, more building for people working from home? Or Apple will eliminate work from home altogether after the construction completes?
Besides, isn’t datacenter what Apple should build more rather than work spaces that few would use?
Anyway, good luck for future local residents buying properties there.
Wtf are you talking about? I was asking if they could use 540 instead of 40 to get to work, which is a toll road but is much less congested.
How you get to work doesn’t interest me.
 
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I suspect there's substantial thought. We here seem to be the ones not giving it much thought. For example, one of us thought about only a 2-dimensional parking lot to eat up much of the space. The math appeared right but approx halve the space by adding only one layer of parking above or below and about quarter it with 4 levels of parking.

Besides a parking tower, they could build underground parking so that the entire surface is available for working space and/or have multiple floors of working space and multiple floors of above & below ground parking leaving most of the land free as greenspace.

I suspect people who can flesh out the intricacies of building Macs, iPhones, iPads etc have the brainpower to put some good planning into much simpler construction of office + parking space... and/or are smart enough to hire teams of people who specialize in such creations.
One of the few intelligent comments on this topic. Raleigh already has a good public bus service that hardly anyone uses since it's vastly time inefficient compared to driving one's own car. Public transportation only works well in a densely populated area which is not the Raleigh-RTP area.
 
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Apple owns a total of 281 acres at the site and the company's filed plans allude to future phases. Apple had said in its announcement about the North Carolina investment that it will eventually create at least 3,000 new jobs in "machine learning, artificial intelligence, software engineering, and other cutting-edge fields" with average salaries ultimately approaching $200,000.

SO the space ship campus cannot house such employees?! Looks like a flaw in architectural design to have such land space yet minimal workspace. I guess only the top executive teams and management as well as designers get to enjoy that area - along with external 'influencers"

Man I come to the office every day, because I just like to, but my office (which is also in RTP) is so deserted that today, at nearly 11am on a Friday, I have not seen one single other human. What are we doing building huge campuses in this day and age?

Perfect for this location, by the sound of this thread.

Seems the NEW trend is that employers are silently quitting full-time employees ... stocking up on contractors and part timers - meaning life insurance and other benefits (which I HEAVILY predicted and mentioned before) are NO MORE and do not NEED to be offered.

So ... the whiners and winners of gen Z and X wanting more life benefits of working form home ... now your Side gigs are no longer side gigs, they're part of your main income! Welcome to your brave new world and thanks.
 
Oh great, two huge motorways near by but no public transit, so all the people who work there have to use their cars to get there. Also the 3000 parking spaces will need ~390,000 sqft, which is more than 50 % of the planned office space. And people call this waste of space freedom.
Raleigh is a city that has been absolutely ruined by cars. Endless sprawl in every direction. I don’t know how people live there. I think it’s miserable. Sort of frustrating to witness, because it has the ingredients of a successful city – three major world-class universities, major tech and biotech industries. But there’s no public transit, no real walkable + livable central district (the one in central Raleigh is really only bustling on the weekends and is lacking in a few basics). Beyond that, it’s a gazillion miles of awful McMansions and shopping malls.
 
Oh great, two huge motorways near by but no public transit, so all the people who work there have to use their cars to get there. Also the 3000 parking spaces will need ~390,000 sqft, which is more than 50 % of the planned office space. And people call this waste of space freedom.
This is an R&D facility which, by definition, requires a lot of space that can be configured and re-configured quickly. It simply isn't realistic to build in a skyscraper in a city center.

FWIW - Apple's RTP campus is already encircled by Greenway (bike) trails that connect to the larger RDU area Greenway systems. Probably only reasonable for those in West Cary, Morrisville and South Durham (distance wise), but one could ride a bike most of the year (weather-wise) if they really wanted to. There's also a bus service that covers RTP, if Apple cared they could lobby to have stops there.
 
Raleigh is a city that has been absolutely ruined by cars. Endless sprawl in every direction. I don’t know how people live there. I think it’s miserable. Sort of frustrating to witness, because it has the ingredients of a successful city – three major world-class universities, major tech and biotech industries. But there’s no public transit, no real walkable + livable central district (the one in central Raleigh is really only bustling on the weekends and is lacking in a few basics). Beyond that, it’s a gazillion miles of awful McMansions and shopping malls.
Raleigh is terrible. Don't move here. Tell your friends. -Saw that on a bumper sticker. :)

There is a transit system (bus). If you meant to say there isn't a train system, then yes, you'd be correct. There's also a significant network of Greenway trails that stretch all across the region. It's actually quite walk/bikeable.
 
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