First Real-World Photos and Video of New MacBook Pro Models Begin to Surface

[vladi]

Touchpad aspect ratio is 16:10, same as the screen

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I'll be damn you are right!!! I just googled actual dimensions and the ratio is perfect 16:10

 

[BaracksPhallusPalace]

keyboard looks cheap and the thickness makes this machine look like a remnant of the 2010's.

 

[MacPro2006VBox]

Yeah, you can totally see that 0.6mm extra thickness

They had to make it a bit thicker to accommodate full HDMI.

 

[galmacland]

You have da power to buy Dell laptop.

Apple had the power to sell the Macbook Pros with a regular full display because nobody really asked for a notch in order to "make the borders so thin". But yeah, buy it so that you can loose an inch when one of your apps require to use the whole menu bar.

 

[galmacland]

keyboard looks cheap and the thickness makes this machine look like a remnant of the 2010's.

it's all battery, they're really really heavy.. I have an early 2019 and it's super light without the notch.

 

[Mr.PT]

Yeah. For better or worse Apple has stopped its longstanding tradition of just handing designs down from on high instead of following the chatter of the critics.

On one hand, they abandoned the Butterfly keyboard and put some good, usable ports into MacBook Pros. They even resurrected the near-univerally beloved Magsafe as a bonus. These were all pain points for a lot of users who may have been pushed too far by Jony Ive's uncompromising minimalism.

On the other hand, they seem willing to sacrifice basic design principles to port over a clunky hack like the notch from the iPhone to the Mac -- all because the area around the screen has been deemed undesirable by armchair design critics. Love Ive or hate him, I have a hard time believing he wouldn't have found a better way to accomodate a 1080p webcam than by intruding on the display space itself, with all the potential UI awkwardness that's bound to bring.

To be fair under his supervision we got the iPhone notch. I love Ive’s designs though. No expert but AFAIK the notch issue is more related to sensors aside camera. Camera alone would allow for punch hole layout. The notch doesn’t bother me much: I appreciate having more display surface to organise my working menu. But like you, I’m afraid 3rd party software will lag getting proper UI interface for this “very niche” product. Apple has to help getting this done, otherwise a beneficial feature will become a major annoyance.

 

[Mr.PT]

keyboard looks cheap and the thickness makes this machine look like a remnant of the 2010's.

Took a look in person and can confirm these actually look very very similar to first unibody 2008 MBP. Also hate the black background of keyboard. However I must say, if Apple made all chassis with the same Black anodised finish these would have looked amazing and perceptional thinner. IMHO Thickness increase is irrelevant but height increase due to feet is very noticeable.

 

[maxoakland]

Can't wait for the teardowns.

Is there ANY CHANCE the hardware is there for Face ID and it's just not implemented yet from the software side?

Heck no. That wouldn't make much sense. If it had a feature, Apple. would be crowing about it all the way to the cheap seats

 

[maxoakland]

It's unlikely, unless they go full touch screen. It was expensive, unpopular, and not used by most applications. It's probably also responsible for a lot of "downselling" (one of my reasons for buying an MBA over the MBP was precisely because it had no TouchBar). You can use an iPad as a Touch Bar in SideCar mode if you want (that also gives you touch capability for the main Mac interface)

A touch bar is a much better and more usable solution than a touch screen or using an iPad of all things. I'm on a mobile computer, I don't want to connect another tinier computer to my computer just to get a more useful Function key row, which is exactly what the touch bar was

Apple made the right decision and innovated with the touchbar. Their mistake was not taking it seriously and they didn't develop or bugfix it at all except for the very good physical escape key they added

Apple always creates controversial features, but they stick with them and improve them until they become indispensable. They didn't do that with the touch bar and it was a mistake. Hopefully they've learned from that and will do better with touch bar 2.0