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First Run of 'Assembled in India' iPhone SE Models Appear in Bangalore
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Would you rather buy iPhone: Designed in China Assembled in the U.S.?
Design means everything according to American standards using American technology. Designs are patented in the U.S. and Apple keeps the royalty here in the U.S.
The assembly plant in China or India makes it as per Apple's specifications. They can't make any changes to the design, nor can they replace A10 processor with some cheap Y10, or put 3.5mm headphone jack back on because it's still popular there.
Design means everything according to American standards using American technology. Designs are patented in the U.S. and Apple keeps the royalty here in the U.S.
The assembly plant in China or India makes it as per Apple's specifications. They can't make any changes to the design, nor can they replace A10 processor with some cheap Y10, or put 3.5mm headphone jack back on because it's still popular there.
Last I knew, it is still popular everywhere, not just "there".
Designed in California.
Assembled in India.
Taxes paid in Ireland.
Assembled in India.
Taxes paid in Ireland.
Spent in America. #AppleSpaceship
Regardless of your stipulations, it would still be cool...
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And yet we build the finest aircraft in the world right here in the USA.
It is a wonder how we manage to get that done /s
And I'm sure that this derogatory generalizing description absolutely doesn't apply to you, right?
The "West", eh? Governments, companies, individuals and so on own things. These owners do deals for their goods or services - sometimes for a fee, sometimes as a trade, other times for free etc.
And you know they "shouldn't" have it? Why? Did I miss something? Was there something fishy about the way it was obtained? And what exactly should they not have? Genuinely curious.
Not nice when the boot is on the other foot is it? Americans did their fair share of stealing when you were just a young puppy of a country, some historical reading may enlighten you:
"In 1787, American agent Andrew Mitchell was intercepted by British authorities as he was trying to smuggle new technology out of the UK".
https://www.pri.org/stories/2014-02...re-stealing-us-technology-america-has-history
Kind Regards,
A Brit.
The U.K invaded all but 22 nations, they also have stakes in the central banks of many nations to ensure that they can control the nation and it's government.
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Perhaps you need to wake up and see the world they way it is.
And this has got what to do with you crying foul about supposed theft of American IP?
Alert and ready to learn. Why is this true:
"The west gave them this tech that they shouldn't have."
Genuinely baffled at this line. What did the "West" give in relation to robotics manufacturing? And why shouldn't "they" have it?
Relax, there is no answer to such notions. There cannot be a reason why they should not have anything, except if we know that there is documented, historical misuse and abuse. Like Pakistan - we all know where the aid given to them is going. That is the space where we could make comments like "shouldn't have" ... for most other nations, such remarks are just brash and crass.
Speaking for yourself only. You sound like someone who doesn't know how to do anything.
Back in the real world, the rest of us remember the recent Texas factory where Americans put together customized Moto X smartphones, which were every bit as complicated as an iPhone to assemble. Too bad Moto was sold.
I don't think it's related to 'capability'. It's more related to 'cost of labour', which is very high in western countries.
But so is productivity.
The Flextronics CEO himself said the extra Moto X assembly cost was only $8-10, with some of that being offset by not having to pay extra to ship completed units to the USA. So maybe $6-8 net extra cost.
And remember, most were made to individual special order.
Note that Mac Pros are built at US Flextronics assembly plants.
I wonder how exactly this benefits the majority of Americans, that some company can squeeze more profits and/or become da biggest, baddest company in da whole world.
That's great for Apple. For the rest, who cares? It must be a coincidence that the West's overall prosperity has declined while China's and others' have risen after decades of moving manufacturing and other jobs over there. Certainly many in the West have profited, but a larger and larger portion are falling behind while foreigners take advantage and become rich instead.
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My ability to buy a cheaper phone comes at a much higher cost to the nation as a whole in the end. I'd rather pay more, much more even, and keep a phone for several years, for example, if it would mean some of my fellow citizens had a good job. They in turn would be able to afford putting money back into the (local) economy that would ultimately benefit me.
Everything has a price, and we're being fed a bill of goods with amazing low monthly payments which ultimately leads to never-ending payments and economic slavery.
I don't have to imagine: countries like India and China have exactly these sorts of policies and have been benefiting from them for decades. In case you haven't noticed, they are growing in wealth and power while we in the West seem to be in a decline.
You need to read more to figure how the West, particularly the British empire, "earned" its wealth in the first place. The growth of China and India has at least been fair and square, we have cheaper labour costs, come make in our country if you want to. No one is forcing anyone to do anything. There is no plunder and there is no loot happening. There is no arm-twisting to force you to make in India. This is what China is doing; it is rattled at India's growth to the extent that we have received a direct threat of grave consequences.
People need to understand that countries are not islands, and it is in their interest to have trade and commerce with other countries of the world. Chinese need to learn this all the more. If the entire world boycotts China, what will they do? Will they fight the world and cry to keep manufacturing in China? That is what they are trying to do here, threatening India with grave consequences.
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